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    Default Spanish ancestry, the most pervasive ancestry in Latin America

    Looking at all the 23andme results from Latinos from various different countries, made me realize that almost all of them have some form of Spanish ancestry regardless of nationality from a Dominican, Chilean, Peruvian and Mexican. The cultures of all Hispanic countries have some influence from Spanish culture even if it’s not always evident. All Hispanic countries are similar in that they all have some influence from Spain even if they’re not similar to eachother at all(or perceived to be). What things from your country has origins from Spain ?

    The cultures of the natives that roamed the lands before us is too local and probably not found else where even in other places in Latin America, like Aztecs and Mayans in Mexico and Central America, Mapcuhes in Chile, Taínos in the Caribbean, Guarani in Paraguay, Chibchas in Colombia and the Incas in Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia. This along with the geography of our countries make it even for more distant for us to feel any connection to other non-bordering Hispanic countries despite having language in common.

    The African contribution is also just as widespread throughout Hispanic America as the Spanish is but is felt in lesser degrees since some places didn’t receive them as much unlike certain countries.

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    There are more people with Injun blood though than Spanish blood, there are pure Natives but not a lot are pure Spanish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    There are more people with Injun blood though than Spanish blood, there are pure Natives but not a lot are pure Spanish.
    Not all Amerindians are the same, at least the Spanish is consistent since it comes from the same country. This isn’t about pure bloods it’s about how Spanish ancestry is common throughout Latin America regardless if they’re Indio-mestizos, mestizos, whites or near full amerindians/blacks, Mulattos, Triracials or zambos Etc..

    I’m talking about Spanish ancestry in general not if they’re are pure blooded people with Spanish ancestry. Besides not everyone in Latin America has Amerindian blood from the same groups

    I didn’t say Spanish blood was more numerous then Amerindian blood

    The Spanish ancestry is coming from one sole group only unlike Amerindian blood which varies from country to country from different tribes/regions who aren’t even related.

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    To be fair the ssa also doesn't come from the same country.
    So realistically after Spanish what would be the group that is the most consistent among Latin Americans ?
    Portuguese
    Italian
    Angola
    A certain amerindian group?
    Sephardic jews
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmaohma78 View Post
    To be fair the ssa also doesn't come from the same country.
    So realistically after Spanish what would be the group that is the most consistent among Latin Americans ?
    Portuguese
    Italian
    Angola
    A certain amerindian group?
    Sephardic jews
    Senegal
    For Brazil it’s probably Portuguese, for the US/Canada and Anglo Caribbean it’s British

    The SSA it’s most likely West African(it’s the same region) unlike the Amerindian all the regions are spread out to far from eachother, which makes me think SSA might be the second most common throughout Latin America(and the Americas’s in general) since it comes from tribes that are related to one another and lived side by side and not from local areas that are far from one another only

    Nobody outside Mexico and Central America probably has Aztec or Mayan ancestry, nobody outside the Andean region has any Quechua or Aymara ancestry and nobody outside of the Caribbean probably has Taino ancestry. Any Amerindian group is highly unlikely

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmaohma78 View Post
    To be fair the ssa also doesn't come from the same country.
    So realistically after Spanish what would be the group that is the most consistent among Latin Americans ?
    Portuguese
    Italian
    Angola
    A certain amerindian group?
    Sephardic jews
    Senegal
    I’d say the most common ones are probably, i could be wrong on the order but, for Hispanic America in general it would be

    1) Spanish

    2). West African(from no specific tribe)

    3). Aztec

    4). Quechua

    5). Mayan

    6). Chibcha

    7). Taíno

    8). Guaraní

    9). Italian

    10). Mapuche

    11). Germán

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetruth View Post
    Looking at all the 23andme results from Latinos from various different countries, made me realize that almost all of them have some form of Spanish ancestry regardless of nationality from a Dominican, Chilean, Peruvian and Mexican. The cultures of all Hispanic countries have some influence from Spanish culture even if it’s not always evident. All Hispanic countries are similar in that they all have some influence from Spain even if they’re not similar to eachother at all(or perceived to be). What things from your country has origins from Spain ?

    The cultures of the natives that roamed the lands before us is too local and probably not found else where even in other places in Latin America, like Aztecs and Mayans in Mexico and Central America, Mapcuhes in Chile, Taínos in the Caribbean, Guarani in Paraguay, Chibchas in Colombia and the Incas in Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia. This along with the geography of our countries make it even for more distant for us to feel any connection to other non-bordering Hispanic countries despite having language in common.

    The African contribution is also just as widespread throughout Hispanic America as the Spanish is but is felt in lesser degrees since some places didn’t receive them as much unlike certain countries.
    The Spanish genetic influence in Dominican Republic @ times is underestimated by the uneducated /anti colonialism mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetruth View Post
    I’d say the most common ones are probably, i could be wrong on the order but, for Hispanic America in general it would be

    1) Spanish

    2). West African(from no specific tribe)

    3). Aztec

    4). Quechua

    5). Mayan

    6). Chibcha

    7). Taíno

    8). Guaraní

    9). Italian

    10). Mapuche

    11). Germán
    For Argentina:

    1- Spanish
    2- Italian
    3- French
    4- Russian *
    5- Polish *
    6- German *
    7- Guarani
    8- Mapuche
    9- Aimara

    For these cases are included the ashkenazi jews.



    Probably it's the only country in Latin America where italian modus vivendi was the most pervasive despite italian and spanish abcestry (if we include colonial stock) are practically in equal regarding numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetruth View Post
    Looking at all the 23andme results from Latinos from various different countries, made me realize that almost all of them have some form of Spanish ancestry regardless of nationality from a Dominican, Chilean, Peruvian and Mexican. The cultures of all Hispanic countries have some influence from Spanish culture even if it’s not always evident. All Hispanic countries are similar in that they all have some influence from Spain even if they’re not similar to eachother at all(or perceived to be). What things from your country has origins from Spain ?

    The cultures of the natives that roamed the lands before us is too local and probably not found else where even in other places in Latin America, like Aztecs and Mayans in Mexico and Central America, Mapcuhes in Chile, Taínos in the Caribbean, Guarani in Paraguay, Chibchas in Colombia and the Incas in Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia. This along with the geography of our countries make it even for more distant for us to feel any connection to other non-bordering Hispanic countries despite having language in common.

    The African contribution is also just as widespread throughout Hispanic America as the Spanish is but is felt in lesser degrees since some places didn’t receive them as much unlike certain countries.
    I wonder how pervasive is Central Mexican Indian ancestry (Nahuatl Speakers) in the Americas. I've read that they were the ones were always aiding and accompanying the Spanish with their conquest. From the USA, throughout Mexico, to Central America, and even to South America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queue View Post
    I wonder how pervasive is Central Mexican Indian ancestry (Nahuatl Speakers) in the Americas. I've read that they were the ones were always aiding and accompanying the Spanish with their conquest. From the USA, throughout Mexico, to Central America, and even to South America.
    Do you know why the Lacandon Mayans have very wavy or almost curly hair compared to most Amerindians who have super straight hair? From the pics that I saw many can also grow decent beard despite being one of the most isolated Native groups in Mexico.

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