Spanish ancestry, the most pervasive ancestry in Latin America

[Erronkari]

Its funny that you mention Tainos in the Caribbean, along with many other examples through all Latin America, but don't mention Carib and Arawaks in Venezuela, when the case is that Venezuela has way more Amerindian ancestry than the hispanic Caribbean and any Caribbean islands.

Aside from that, I would say that Brazilid Amerindian groups is one of the most widespread Amerindian ancestries in Latin America, since this Amerindian ancestry is found in the Caribbean, Northern south America (more in Venezuela than in Colombia), Brazil, parts of Bolivia (in its Amazonian part), and even a very tiny bit in Northern Argentina (Chanes).

And don't forget wayuus.
They are one of the most important subtribes of the carib/arawak.
Well said about the chanes!!

[Thetruth]

Its funny that you mention Tainos in the Caribbean, along with many other examples through all Latin America, but don't mention Carib and Arawaks in Venezuela, when the case is that Venezuela has way more Amerindian ancestry than the hispanic Caribbean and any Caribbean islands.

Aside from that, I would say that Brazilid Amerindian groups is one of the most widespread Amerindian ancestries in Latin America, since this Amerindian ancestry is found in the Caribbean, Northern south America (more in Venezuela than in Colombia), Brazil, parts of Bolivia (in its Amazonian part), and even a very tiny bit in Northern Argentina (Chanes).

Brazilid phenotypes might be widespread, but is there one specific tribe that stretches from the Caribbean, Venezuela, and to Bolivia ? No right, which is why I didn’t include it, at least the Spanish come from the same country and the West Africans from the same region, can’t say the same for people with Brazilid phenotype

[alnortedelsur]

Taino is the most common and mentioned ancestry for the Caribbean and refers to a very specific tribe, I couldn’t think of any for Venezuela since they barley mention any like Dominicans and Puerto Rican’s do for the Taino.

Which would you say is more common Taino, Arawak or island Carib ? I feel like Taino and Arawak are more common then Carib.

Taino is very mentioned because Caribbean Hispanics like to highlight they also have some Amerindian, and for that reason, they keep mentioning their Tainos, even when they only represent a very small portion of their whole ancestry.

It doesn't change that Venezuela, as a mainland south American country, has much more Amerindian mixture than them, even when they don't keep mentioning their Arawak and Caribbean tribes as Caribbean Hispanics do with their Tainos.

Also, Tainos are just a sub branch of Arawaks, descendants of those Arawaks that populated the Caribbean islands coming from today's Venezuela in pre-Columbian times.

Arawaks of course that are very famous, and Caribbeans too. Both Amerindian groups encompass some of the biggest language families of south American Amerindians.

If we talk about particular tribes, Wayuus (in NW Venezuela) are very mentioned. Same for Pemones, Yanomanis, and many others (talking about tribes existing today that are basically full Amerindian and have kept their language and Amerindian customs, something that today doesn't even exist in the Caribbean). Most of the rest of venezuelans (excluding whites/near whites) have way more Amerindian mixture than your average Caribbean Hispanic, but they dont need to keep highlighting their Carib, Arawak or Timotocuica background.

[Thetruth]

Taino is very mentioned because Caribbean Hispanics like to highlight they also have some Amerindian, and for that reason, they keep mentioning their Tainos, even when they only represent a very small portion of their whole ancestry.

It doesn't change that Venezuela, as a mainland south American country, has much more Amerindian mixture than them, even when they don't keep mentioning their Arawak and Caribbean tribes as Caribbean Hispanics do with their Tainos.

Also, Tainos are just a sub branch of Arawaks, descendants of those Arawaks that populated the Caribbean islands coming from today's Venezuela in pre-Columbian times.

Arawaks of course that are very famous, and Caribbeans too. Both Amerindian groups encompass some of the biggest language families of south American Amerindians.

If we talk about particular tribes, Wayuus (in NW Venezuela) are very mentioned. Same for Pemones, Yanomanis, and many others (talking about tribes existing today that are basically full Amerindian and have kept their language and Amerindian customs, something that today doesn't even exist in the Caribbean). Most of the rest of venezuelans (excluding whites/near whites) have way more Amerindian mixture than your average Caribbean Hispanic, but they dont need to keep highlighting their Carib, Arawak or Timotocuica background.

Okay so Arawak end of the story

[Mingle]

For Argentina:

1- Italian
2- Spanish
3- French
4- Russian *
5- Polish *
6- German *
7- Guarani
8- Mapuche
9- Aimara

For these cases are included the ashkenazi jews.



Probably it's the only country in Latin America where italian modus vivendi was the most pervasive despite italian and spanish abcestry (if we include colonial stock) are practically in equal regarding numbers.

Italian ahead of Spanish? Didn't Argentano post some 23andMe data before showing that Argentinians had greater Spanish ancestry than Italian ancestry?

[Cristiano viejo]

Spanish ancestry is around the furthest pervasive around the world. Only behind indian, chinese and english ancestry I though.

For sure Spanish is more pervasive than English.
Not sure about Indian and Chinese.

Italian ahead of Spanish? Didn't Argentano post some 23andMe data before showing that Argentinians had greater Spanish ancestry than Italian ancestry?

Argentina is more Spanish than Italian. Much more.

[Erronkari]

Italian ahead of Spanish? Didn't Argentano post some 23andMe data before showing that Argentinians had greater Spanish ancestry than Italian ancestry?

Oh yes!! Genetically Spanish is 1st place, because adding the spanish immigration + the colonial stock, it's more numerous than the italian diaspora.
But I feel that italians were more penetrating culturally talking.
But regarding genetics you are 100% right, spamish is # 1.

[Erronkari]

For sure Spanish is more pervasive than English.
Not sure about Indian and Chinese.


Argentina is more Spanish than Italian. Much more.

Genetically talking it is without any doubt and for a good margin.

[Cristiano viejo]

But I feel that italians were more penetrating culturally talking.

I know language is not the only element when we discuss about culture but in what way Argentina is more Italian than Spanish? I frankly ignore this matter.

[Nelju]

Venezuela is canarian, sicilian, galician, west african, lebanese, venetian, abruzzian, pemon, basque and arawak.

I am not sure how to rank Colombians on that list, but IMO they should be there.