Who looks more alike: Icelandics and Finns or Portuguese and Greeks?

**Lemminkäinen** · 10-23-2021, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Harkonnen

So your theory is Karelians brought Finnic from Volga. After establishing our rule, West Finns and Estonians adopted it from us?

Yes, trying to fit all cenetic ideas it is the only possibility, unless the northern Finnic (which we speak in Finland) is not adapted without ancestry. But then all written history and liguistics is wrong.

A small chance is that there was two routes, but then most Finns adapted Finnish. First a small group Finnic speakers stranded in Finland Proper, too small to bring all the genome variation in Estonia and went through genetic drift. Secondly the language circled from Estonia through Karelia to Finland as a second wave. This would be a good theory, but then bad news. Finnish and Karelia are classified into the northern Baltic-Finnic group and Estonia into the southern group. Linguists are sure about it. So this theory is impossible. Only sane theory is the first one including a language route from Finland Proper to all eastern areas, to Karelia from Ladogan to White Sea and Vepsians. But you know that people like you deny this and spread your agenda effectively. Briefly, the situation is insane now, including also those fanatic gene bloggers.

**Septentrion** · 10-24-2021, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Vishap

Not many. They look mostly like the Scottish and the Danish. Finns are blonder and have more Asiatic facial features, like northern Russians. Greeks don't look like other Balkanites, every single Greek could pass in Italy, Spain or Portugal with ease.

Ha!ha!ha! Come on dude, be easy. Finns aren’t as Asiatic as you put them. Stop exaggerating! They do look different from other Scandinavians, but one of the blondest, blue or gray - eyed race on earth.

**NSXD60** · 10-24-2021, 08:13 PM

In general, Portuguese and Greeks.

**Septentrion** · 10-24-2021, 08:18 PM

Finns are a very Northern European people. Overall, Finland is slightly blonder - haired than the Kingdom of Norway which is the blondest in Scandinavia. Iceland is slightly less blond - haired than Norway, but red hair is a much more frequent than in Finland by far, as many as 6% - 7% of Icelanders are gingers! Although Western Norway is slightly more red - haired than Iceland. In terms of lighter eyes, Finland and Iceland are very comparable although Finland would have more grays, while Iceland more pure blue. The difference is slight though. The greatest is in phenotype, while Icelanders are predominantly a Germanic people (Norse) with some Celtic admixture ( Northern Scottish & Irish). Finns are predominantly a blend of Baltic Finns, Scandinavians and Volga people ( Russia).
The Tronder phenotype domiates Iceland, while the East Baltid is present in Finland.