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    For dating she could be even ultimately dumb I wouldn't care that much. As for serious relationship or marriage, ye, a bit inteligence would be nice.

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    If dating also means one night, i even would care about appearance if i am drunk enough hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maria Sharapova View Post
    Intelligence isn't only from the mother. It's a recent internet myth that did the rounds a few years back.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywi...m-your-mother/
    That children usually inherit their intelligence from their mother (or that the mothers intelligence is more significant than the fathers intelligence) is ancient wisdom, not a recent internet myth.

    As JamesBond007 said, Arthur Schopenhauer already claimed this hundreds of years ago, and Plato alluded to this ancient truth before the birth of Jesus. A quote by Schopenhauer:

    "With our knowledge of the complete unalterability both of character and of mental faculties, we are led to the view that a real and thorough improvement of the human race might be reached not so much from outside as from within, not so much by theory and instruction as rather by the path of generation. Plato had something of the kind in mind when, in the fifth book of his Republic, he explained his plan for increasing and improving his warrior caste. If we could castrate all scoundrels and stick all stupid geese in a convent, and give men of noble character a whole harem, and procure men, and indeed thorough men, for all girls of intellect and understanding, then a generation would soon arise which would produce a better age than that of Pericles."

    There is also lots of anecdotal evidence to support this.


    In "the world as will and representation" Schopenhauer wrote:

    "Wenn wir nun die hier gewonnene Ueberzeugung von der Erblichkeit des
    Charakters vom Vater und des Intellekts von der Mutter in Verbindung setzen mit
    unserer frühem Betrachtung des weiten Abstandes, den die Natur, in moralischer,
    wie in intellektueller Hinsicht, zwischen Mensch und Mensch gesetzt hat, wie auch
    mit unserer Erkenntniß der völligen Unveränderlichkeit sowohl des Charakters, als
    der Geistesfähigkeiten; so werden wir zu der Ansicht hingeleitet, daß eine wirkliche
    und gründliche Veredelung des Menschengeschlechts, nicht sowohl von außen als
    von innen, also nicht sowohl durch Lehre und Bildung, als vielmehr auf dem Wege
    der Generation zu erlangen seyn möchte."

    Roughly translated:

    "If we now connect the conviction of the inheritability of character from the father and of intellect from the
    mother that we have obtained here through our earlier observation of the big gap that nature has set
    in between humans considering their intellectual capabilities, as with our understanding of the absolute
    inalterability of both the character and the intellect, we will soon be led to the conclusion that
    a thorough and real refining of humankind is not possible from the outside by means of education
    or teachings, but that it has to be obtained through the path of generations."
    Last edited by Götterfunke; 08-10-2020 at 09:51 AM.

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    My character isn't very similar to either parents of mine, but if I had to pick it's closer to my mom's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laly View Post
    Would you date a woman you find more intelligent than you?

    Would her intelligence frighten you? Would she be too impressive to you?
    If she's more intelligent than me I'd respect her for that, but would a woman be ok with dating someone less intelligent than her?
    Intelligence usually translates to money/status and women desire a man that doesn't have low status/money.

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    Hard to say.
    When I was teen/student I was attracted to girls with intelligence level similar to mine. But all these sympathies were not mutual.
    So, my ideals were changed quite quickly
    As for myself, I am geek/nerd/bookworm type of person with iq 120+.
    But I prefer simple, romantic, family-oriented girls, because they are way more mutual and warm.
    Also I know many stories when intellectual guys met intellectual girls and these girls don't want to create family. I am somewhat influenced by this kind of stories...

    Overall,
    to be honest, I wouldn't deny that once I would marry woman being intellectual as I am.
    I haven't created family yet. And I still consider this model (me + nerdy woman) as possible/realistic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Götterfunke View Post
    That children usually inherit their intelligence from their mother (or that the mothers intelligence is more significant than the fathers intelligence) is ancient wisdom, not a recent internet myth.

    As JamesBond007 said, Arthur Schopenhauer already claimed this hundreds of years ago, and Plato alluded to this ancient truth before the birth of Jesus. A quote by Schopenhauer:

    "With our knowledge of the complete unalterability both of character and of mental faculties, we are led to the view that a real and thorough improvement of the human race might be reached not so much from outside as from within, not so much by theory and instruction as rather by the path of generation. Plato had something of the kind in mind when, in the fifth book of his Republic, he explained his plan for increasing and improving his warrior caste. If we could castrate all scoundrels and stick all stupid geese in a convent, and give men of noble character a whole harem, and procure men, and indeed thorough men, for all girls of intellect and understanding, then a generation would soon arise which would produce a better age than that of Pericles."

    There is also lots of anecdotal evidence to support this.


    In "the world as will and representation" Schopenhauer wrote:

    "Wenn wir nun die hier gewonnene Ueberzeugung von der Erblichkeit des
    Charakters vom Vater und des Intellekts von der Mutter in Verbindung setzen mit
    unserer frühem Betrachtung des weiten Abstandes, den die Natur, in moralischer,
    wie in intellektueller Hinsicht, zwischen Mensch und Mensch gesetzt hat, wie auch
    mit unserer Erkenntniß der völligen Unveränderlichkeit sowohl des Charakters, als
    der Geistesfähigkeiten; so werden wir zu der Ansicht hingeleitet, daß eine wirkliche
    und gründliche Veredelung des Menschengeschlechts, nicht sowohl von außen als
    von innen, also nicht sowohl durch Lehre und Bildung, als vielmehr auf dem Wege
    der Generation zu erlangen seyn möchte."

    Roughly translated:

    "If we now connect the conviction of the inheritability of character from the father and of intellect from the
    mother that we have obtained here through our earlier observation of the big gap that nature has set
    in between humans considering their intellectual capabilities, as with our understanding of the absolute
    inalterability of both the character and the intellect, we will soon be led to the conclusion that
    a thorough and real refining of humankind is not possible from the outside by means of education
    or teachings, but that it has to be obtained through the path of generations."
    IQ seems to be inherited from both parents, similar to height. A study found that mothers with low IQs and fathers with gifted IQs produced children with average IQ. Like a short mother and a tall father usually produce an average height child.

    Burt concen¬
    trated his attention on the children of mothers with IQs assessed at the low
    grade of 70-85. For the purpose of analysis he considered in one group those
    of their children whose fathers were of very low to medium ability (assessed at
    IQ 65-100); another group consisted of the children whose fathers were of
    high cognitive ability (assessed at IQ 120-145). but whose mothers belonged to
    the group of low-grade IQ. There were 105 children in the first group. 67 in the
    second. The children were subjected to a test of the Binet type. Those in the
    first group showed a mean IQ of 88-6; in the second, 103-2. The difference in
    IQ was thus 14-6 (standard error 21).

    - Race, J. Baker, 1974, p. 461

    So the formula for IQ seems similar to the formula when calculating the predicted height of children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laly View Post
    Would you date a woman you find more intelligent than you?

    Would her intelligence frighten you? Would she be too impressive to you?
    1-Yes.

    2-I guess that would not her intelligence that could frighten me, rather what usually causes me negative feelings are other types of "qualities".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laly View Post
    Would you date a woman you find more intelligent than you? Would her intelligence frighten you? Would she be too impressive to you?
    What do you mean by intelligence? The ability to build a rocket or the ability to hold two conversations at the same time?

    Intelligence is a nebulous term, though. There are many forms of being intelligent. Women have trouble with rationality, are less creative in general, are easier to manipulate and have some trouble with imaginative empathy. You'll find very often that women have trouble discussing things in general terms, and will only understand things in a way that applies to them personally.

    Go to TED talks and scroll through the presentations given by women, notice that they are all about Sex, Relationships, Children, Sex, Women, Sex, Women's Issues, Self-Esteem, Sex, Diversity, Sex, etc.

    I don't think I've ever met a really intelligent woman. They don't seem as sharp or analytical as men. The smartest woman in a room is on par with a man of average to below average intelligence.

    They don't have the general inclination or apparent aptitude for STEM professions for instance. So while they may very well be as intelligent as men, they'll continue to prefer to be nurses and child care specialists.




    Most women will take fake degrees like Geology or Psychology because it looks good but in reality is no where near as challenging a true STEM degree. And then of course a lot of women only go to college because everyone else is doing it and they have no desire to improve themselves so they essentially waste 4 years living a hedonistic lifestyle and come out with debt and poor career prospects.



    Same with women who want to be entrepreneurs, they want to create a cupcake company or a clothing boutique or a cute kids/dog stuff company, they end up wanting to do the stuff they would do in their home for their own family anyway.

    However that's irrelevant because even very intelligent and competent women can still be hobbled by passive female built-in nature.

    Does this make women unintelligent? Not really, only different. It makes them unsuitable for certain decision making procedures. Politics, philosophy and science is not their forte. But they have strong points where men are weak too, making them better at other things. It balances out in the end when a man and a woman pair up. So I don't mind them.
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