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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    i dont think 'weird face structure and dont wanna look at them" is exactly celebration of diversity lol but yeah i get your point.

    bengalis are their own group. closest would be biharis in eastern india with some mongoloid shift. srilankans are closest to tamil with slight bengali like mix.
    Yeah you're right about Bengalis. This NJ tree from Razib Khan's blog is showing Bengalis clustering with Kanjars and Patels. So Bihari and Eastern UP agricultural castes would be the closest Indian groups for Bengalis.
    https://www.brownpundits.com/wp-cont...07/Rplot16.png

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    its true i can look afghan and like some lighter pakistanis because they have caucasoid features whereas typical egyptians and moroccans have more ssa african features. Pakistanis look way more west asian than the typical egyptians and moroccans do. Obviously they have more r1b like eastern europeans while north africans have more e1 like somalis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mena View Post
    its true i can look afghan and like some lighter pakistanis because they have caucasoid features whereas typical egyptians and moroccans have more ssa african features. Pakistanis look way more west asian than the typical egyptians and moroccans do. Obviously they have more r1b like eastern europeans while north africans have more e1 like somalis.
    I noticed this too, I've noticed even light Egyptians always show sub saharan influence on their faces whereas dark Pakistanis have sharper features apart from the Indian migrants who arrived by 20 million after 1947

    This is a light Egyptian




    This is a Pakistani

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    Excellent News. Pakis are really moving up in the world.

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    Why did we come to this��♂️��♂️��♂️. The obssession of white features continues in Pakistan. WE ARE NOT PERSIAN, ARAB OR MEDDITERANEAN. I just made a post of Pakistan's football team with Iran's and Afghanistan. Pakistanis are brown skinned and it's something to be proud of. Why tf did you literally make a whole ass collage of white looking Pakistanis? Are you that desperate? Even I can use Neil Nitin Mukesh's pictures or Jamshyd Godrej's picture and then compare it to Kumail Nanjiani and say Gujaratis are much whiter than their Sindhi/Punjabi Pakistani neighbors and Gujaratis are white passing, but we all know it's not true.

    Why the obssession?

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    https://qz.com/india/1487285/an-indi...-headquarters/

    Keep crying for us. Caucasian masterrace. Majority of Southern Europeans look just like us. We look nothing like Indians. The whole world is jealous about our fair Caucasian features.

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    This is B.S. Ashkenazi less Caucasoid than Cypriots, Armenians, and DRUZE????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    We North Africans are Africans, we have sub-saharan ancestry and embrace it. Pakistanis have no Sub-Saharan ancestry, so its obvious they are more Caucasoid.
    well yes they have especially in Sindh and Baluchistan the ethnic Makrani they are literally of African descend. They are often counted among regular Baloch but they are actually quite different from the looks of it.

    https://i.tribune.com.pk/media/image...1484655470.png
    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ba/c7/83/b...4aeaaf3274.jpg
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...owvyQ&usqp=CAU
    https://www.pggpopulation.org/images...n/Makrani.jpeg
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/e6...0567729791.jpg
    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...9aedbff8a.webp
    https://joshuaproject.net/assets/med...tos/p17420.jpg

    By the way, there is no way that the averages for the Makrani floating around the Internet can be correct. When I look at these peoples physical appearance there is no chance this can be explained by 4-5% extra SSA admixture. Whoever collected the Makrani data, did a horrible job. Or "confused" the samples. Only the Baloch and Brahui results make sense and mostly fit their physical look

    Or else can someone please explain to me how this fits ~90% Caucasian genes? Even the Dodecad K12b data makes absolutely no sense. Only 5% SSA and 10% South Eurasian? It seems like the database used for Makranis in all of these calculators is actually of that of Balochis who are very slightly Makrani mixed. Not actual real Makranis. The Makrani I have seen are at least 40-50% SSA by their physical features.
    Last edited by Demhat; 11-30-2020 at 02:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demhat View Post
    well yes they have especially in Sindh and Baluchistan the ethnic Makrani they are literally of African descend. They are often counted among regular Baloch but they are actually very different.

    https://i.tribune.com.pk/media/image...1484655470.png
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...owvyQ&usqp=CAU
    https://www.pggpopulation.org/images...n/Makrani.jpeg
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/e6...0567729791.jpg
    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...9aedbff8a.webp
    https://joshuaproject.net/assets/med...tos/p17420.jpg

    By the way, there is no fucking way that the averages for the Makrani floating around the Internet can be correct. When I look at these peoples physical appearance there is no chance this can be explained by 3-4% extra SSA admixture. Whoever collected the Makrani data, did a horrible job. Or cherry picked on purpose

    Or else can please someone explain to me how this fits ~90% Caucasian genes? Even the Dodecad K12b data makes absolutely no sense. Only 5% SSA and 10% South Eurasian? It seems like the database used for Makranis in all of these calculators is actually of that of Balochis who are very slightly Makrani mixed. Not actual real Makranis.
    EVERY other proper study I've seen places Makranis Autosomally as largely SSA . Some of their haplogroups are such too. I can link all the studies if you'd like. Makranis / Siddis are mostly SSA too. I've lived in Lyari. It's obvious how African the people look. Just look at videos of people going into Siddi communities in Gujarat. They stick out amongst the locals even more than Parsis do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azbuzz View Post
    EVERY other proper study I've seen places Makranis Autosomally as largely SSA . Some of their haplogroups are such too. I can link all the studies if you'd like. Makranis / Siddis are mostly SSA too. I've lived in Lyari. It's obvious how African the people look. Just look at videos of people going into Siddi communities in Gujarat. They stick out amongst the locals even more than Parsis do.
    Yes I know how they look when I watch Balochi music videos they stick out very clearly with their physical features. However the sample Data used in all these spreadsheets of various calculators only shows them as ~5% SSA.

    65% Gedrosia and 15% Caucasus. These people definitely don't look like they are on average 80% Caucasus_Gedrosia. And their exotic look definitely doesn't come from the ASI side because their features are distinctly African. Whoever collected the data definitely mislabeled it or had no clue who Makrani really are.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=Makr...w=1242&bih=597

    The really exotic/ethnic "Balochi" seem to be almost always from the Makrani minority. The unadmixed Balochi themselves look pretty Iranic and similar to Pashtuns from their physical features.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGb3v40HhZ8
    Balochi seems to be something like a umbrella term in that region so this is why Makranis are often simply counted among the Baloch.

    Ironically when I google Baloch I often come across images like this here labeled as Balochi. While these are clearly Makrani people.
    https://dvqlxo2m2q99q.cloudfront.net...52pYaPCAel.jpg
    Last edited by Demhat; 11-30-2020 at 02:42 PM.

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