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    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    Baghdad is the capital of Iraq, not Iran.
    My bad.

    Iraq is not a big country but this isn't relevant. a lot of micro-states in Europe with 0 resources live a lot better than the biggest country in the world by size and resources. Iraq was in multiple wars and had a totalitarian regime and embargo imposed by US for over 20 years. I think the fact that today Iraq has a better purchasing power than Belarus says a lot. The comparison was with Iraq because that's a country who produces a big number of refugees. And i doubt they would invade Belarus even if they would be welcomed there. This is the main reason why the east have no refugees and not because they're some sort of fearless warriors.
    1. Your picture (and let's hope these statisitics are absolutely honest ) compares capitals, not countries. It doesn't say an Iraqi peasant has more of anything than a Belarussian one.
    2. Your picture says the prices in Minsk are lower which compensates the said loss in purchasing power.
    3. I agree that refugees come to Europe because Mama Merkel and the likes promise to provide for them. Much fortunately Lukashenko isn't one of this treacherous to own people kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    My bad.


    1. Your picture (and let's hope these statisitics are absolutely honest ) compares capitals, not countries. It doesn't say an Iraqi peasant has more of anything than a Belarussian one.
    2. Your picture says the prices in Minsk are lower which compensates the said loss in purchasing power.
    3. I agree that refugees come to Europe because Mama Merkel and the likes promise to provide for them. Much fortunately Lukashenko isn't one of this treacherous to own people kind.
    the difference in purchasing power do take into consideration the difference in prices. that's why is called purchasing power. otherwise we would only compare the average salaries but that's not always relevant.
    the refugees wouldn't come to Belarus or to any eastern country even if all the border will vanish tomorrow. people from the east are themselves immigrant in the west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    the difference in purchasing power do take into consideration the difference in prices. that's why is called purchasing power. otherwise we would only compare the average salaries but that's not always relevant.
    Indeed. Btw, who counted that "purchasing power"?

    the refugees wouldn't come to Belarus or to any eastern country even if all the border will vanish tomorrow. people from the east are themselves immigrant in the west.
    Of course because as I've said Lukashenko won't provide for them even if he'd let them in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Indeed. Btw, who counted that "purchasing power"?
    people from each country contributed to that database. it's very precise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Of course because as I've said Lukashenko won't provide for them even if he'd let them in.
    well he cannot provide for his own people let alone for someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    the difference in purchasing power do take into consideration the difference in prices. that's why is called purchasing power. otherwise we would only compare the average salaries but that's not always relevant.
    the refugees wouldn't come to Belarus or to any eastern country even if all the border will vanish tomorrow. people from the east are themselves immigrant in the west.
    I agree with most you said, but...isn't Belarus a nice place in comparison to let's say Congo or Bangladesh? I'd say Belarus would be significant upgrade for them.
    So I think many economic migrants would readily accept eastern Europe if they realize west is unreachable, which we should not allow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    people from each country contributed to that database. it's very precise.
    People of course. I meant: "what people"? Are they to be trusted? ha-ha

    well he cannot provide for his own people let alone for someone else.
    I disagree. After all they voted for him, didn't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I agree with most you said, but...isn't Belarus a nice place in comparison to let's say Congo or Bangladesh? I'd say Belarus would be significant upgrade for them.
    According to the last statistics owners of slave factories in Bangladesh have a better purchasing power than Belarussians.

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    Let's take Ukraine that is a much more similar country to Belarus. Also this
    case is European and better known.

    And even though before Maidan Ukraine wasn't as sovereign as Belarus, after
    Maidan and the final loss of soveregnity things for Ukraine turned drastically
    worse than before.

    I assert that the loss of soveregnity brings disaster sooner or later. Fight
    this logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    People of course. I meant: "what people"? Are they to be trusted? ha-ha
    the site is very precise with romania, kazakhstan and italy. why wouldn't it be as precise with Belarus? when there is a favorable statistic then it's real, when we don't like it it's not to be trusted. typically eastern mentality. we like to hide the head under the sand and pretend it's all good. that's why nothing changes in any of this countries.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    I disagree. After all they voted for him, didn't they?
    as i said before, even Ceausescu was elected every 4 years with 99.99% of the votes. no one knows how as no one was voting for him. we've all seen how he ended up.

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    Who cares! He is a good leader and anti globalist.

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