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    Lord Sebjenseb (sebjenseb.net) solved the IQ Question btw

    As for why do nearly genetically identical populations in different countries have different IQ - genetics are fickle, and g is determined by a very small number of genes. So, inscrutable differences can cause varying results. Current IQ results are basically entirely dependent on the "did you have some sort of eugenic selection in the last 200 years" modifier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kessaras View Post
    Are you the admin of this forum? If not shut the hell up.
    Just because your Turkish ass doesn't like what objective data says about Turkish IQ doesn't mean it's wrong. Most Europeans are smarter than Turks. Deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    How do you explain huge drop between Poland and Ukraine? They are genetically very similar.
    Perhaps Ukrainian poverty and stress due to war. Ukraine only participated in PISA once in 2022. Also they aren't that similar, they're both large counties. Also Catholic religion could have prevented cousin marriages. If you divide the map into above and below IQ of 96, it fist precisely into Catholic and Orthodox divide of Europe.






    This video talks about a study of how the Catholic church changed people genetically:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    Just because your Turkish ass doesn't like what objective data says about Turkish IQ doesn't mean it's wrong. Most Europeans are smarter than Turks. Deal with it.
    In regions where predominantly ethnic Turks live higher than those regions where Kurds, Arabs, and Laz live, Deal with it. Avarage Turk IQ is 97 according to this map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    Perhaps Ukrainian poverty and stress due to war. Ukraine only participated in PISA once in 2022. Also they aren't that similar, they're both large counties. Also Catholic religion could have prevented cousin marriages. If you divide the map into above and below IQ of 96, it fist precisely into Catholic and Orthodox divide of Europe.






    This video talks about a study of how the Catholic church changed people genetically:
    Interesting that according to this PISA-derived map, Greece has more or less the exact IQ than Israel with just one decimal of difference, although the latter is by economic measures more advanced.

    I on my side however have some indications on why Greece's IQ is at 94 points: we still have lots of people from Albania (they're still the largest immigrant community) and Pakistan. Because Albanian students, due to the presence of the community for over 30 years now, are attending Greek schools in fairly large numbers. And according to this map, Albanians are at 82 IQ points, almost 12 points below. And there are some Pakistanis as well, as Pakistanis as a whole, who have an average IQ in the low 80s, are now becoming the largest immigrant community here.

    And, as I indicated before: the effort Greek students gave was much less than most other participating nations, especially compared to the top placed ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kessaras View Post
    In regions where predominantly ethnic Turks live higher than those regions where Kurds, Arabs, and Laz live, Deal with it. Avarage Turk IQ is 97 according to this map.

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    Lol, Lynn says that greece IQ is like 92-94, how could turkish even have 98, wtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by kessaras View Post
    In regions where predominantly ethnic Turks live higher than those regions where Kurds, Arabs, and Laz live, Deal with it. Avarage Turk IQ is 97 according to this map.

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    Turks are 72% of Turkey, so these minorities can't be depressing the IQ that much. Maybe it's 93 for ethnic Turks instead of 91 for whole country, but its' still far lower than European average which is 97,4

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    Quote Originally Posted by tita View Post
    Lol, Lynn says that greece IQ is like 92-94, how could turkish even have 98, wtf
    Turks have considerable amount of Siberian and East Asian genes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    Turks are 72% of Turkey, so these minorities can't be depressing the IQ that much. Maybe it's 93 for ethnic Turks instead of 91 for whole country, but its' still far lower than European average which is 97,4
    Eastern Anatolia, Eastern Meditteranean, Southeastern Anatolia, and the Black Sea Coast of Turkey have a considerable amount of Kurds, Laz Arabs, and other minorities. People from the Aegean Region are predominantly ethnic Turks. Also, they have the most Turkic genes. Ethnic average Turk IQ is in the 96-98 range. If we excluded Arabs and Kurds from the Meditteranean region and Laz, Georgian people from the Black Sea coast of Turkey, Coastal Turkey would have been higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tita View Post
    Lol, Lynn says that greece IQ is like 92-94, how could turkish even have 98, wtf
    It probably isn't. We don't know what was the sample size for that Lynn study and we don't even know if the 100 figure is even synchronized to the European or White American IQ of 100. PISA test takers are randomly selected form the entire country and they have a much larger sample size. I don't trust these Lynn study numbers until I learn more about it.

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