Atrocious European IQ scores

[Supercomputer]

No, you didn't.

Plus, this study is way more accurate.



As for Greece's performance in raw IQ, considering the bibliography Lynn has taken for Greece in his studies in comparison to the bibliography of other countries, I would say it's shit. In particular, he put an age sample for Greece that begins from the age of 5 while other countries begin at 10. This is vastly unfair as countries that include lower ages in their sample will inevitably get lower scores.

It's also the immigration factor. We have Albanians who on average score 80-82 IQ points. No offence here.

What do you mean "no you didn't" ?

[Dunai]

Usually average IQ level is in direct correlation with the level of poverty that individual is raised in. Hence the regional difference within Europe. Of course there seem to be exceptions from this rule, where richer countries underperform compared to East Central European countries that aren't that rich, to which I don't have any theory why is it so.

"The usual side effects of poverty are abundant and well documented. They include crime, chronic stress and a long list of health conditions. But you may not have heard of this one: lower IQ. That’s according to a recent post by Alice Walton in the University of Chicago Business School’s journal, The Chicago Booth Review: “How poverty changes your mindset.” Walton, reviewing research with which I was troublingly unfamiliar, reports the bottom line: that poverty lowers your IQ — in one study, by something like 13 points."

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy...n-intelligence

[Götterfunke]

I've looked at some IQ scores from viewoniq.org (without student assessment studies as many claim you can't measure IQ based from student assessment) which has the latest database of IQs and there's no way around it. European IQs are horribly low. The White IQ (if we consider all Europeans to be White) is threfor far below 100. Only a few European countries have IQs at 100 or above and many many of them are around 90 and even lower. In Balkans and Greece the average IQ is at a US Black level (85-90). Particularly disappointing are IQs of Czechia, Ireland, Latvia, Ukraine, Romania and even Sweden. I've done a rough calculation and from these numbers the average IQ of Europe is 94,6. I don't know how much if any the scores in Western nations have been depressed by brown immigrants. In any case from this it would also seems White Americans are significantly smarter than Europeans. The database was created by professor David Becker of Chemnitz, Germany with help from Richard Lynn.


There are global maps already on the website, but I've done better quality zooms of Europe only:

Student assessment studies only:

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IQ plus SAS



IQ only (Unweighted)



IQ only (Weighted by sample size and data quality, more reliable)



To check the data yourself go to https://viewoniq.org/?page_id=9 and download the latest dataset. Under the xls file got o FAV tab and UW column is unweighted IQ, NW column is IQ weighted by sample size and QNV is IQ weighted by both sample size and data quality.

Your thoughts?

"Studies" like these are close to meaningless in multiracial and multinational countries like the Federal Republic of Germany in 2020.

The data is from 2012-2014 and the researchers weren't even sure about the nationality of their participants. As long as you were able to speak German fluently, you were included in the statistic.

The same was most likely the case for Sweden, Belgium, France etc. as well, which is why their IQ is that low.

That being said, the IQ for Germany doesn't seem that far off. I'd guess that the German natives would have an IQ of roughly 104 or 105 in a society free of immigration.

One has to mention that not only over one quarter of "Germans" were born with foreign background (at least one parent not being German), but that the immigrants with the statistically lower IQ (mostly Turks, Arabs, and since 2015 also Africans) pull down the average of the natives simply by being in the same class with them. It is a well-known phenomenon that the performance of all students will be negatively impacted by low-IQ students in the same class, which means the immigrants do not only drag down the national average because of their own low IQ, but because they negatively influence the IQ of their classmates (German natives) as well.

Romanias IQ also seems a bit too low to be true, don't know what went wrong there though.

[Supercomputer]

Usually average IQ level is in direct correlation with the level of poverty that individual is raised in. Hence the regional difference within Europe. Of course there seem to be exceptions from this rule, where richer countries underperform compared to East Central European countries that aren't that rich, to which I don't have any theory why is it so.

"The usual side effects of poverty are abundant and well documented. They include crime, chronic stress and a long list of health conditions. But you may not have heard of this one: lower IQ. That’s according to a recent post by Alice Walton in the University of Chicago Business School’s journal, The Chicago Booth Review: “How poverty changes your mindset.” Walton, reviewing research with which I was troublingly unfamiliar, reports the bottom line: that poverty lowers your IQ — in one study, by something like 13 points."

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy...n-intelligence

Actually as this has been debunked. It a politically motivated talking point designed to protect minorities (particularly black people) from resentment that stems from the fact they score lower in IQ, so then IQ is blamed on environment. A study from the 1970s that measured black children raised in upper middle class white families debunked the idea IQ differences are due to poverty.

A ver big proponent of the poverty hypothesis is Jewish fella named Eric Turkheimer who has been debunked here
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WPV6Hz9iwQo/

[Götterfunke]

Actually as this has been debunked. It a politically motivated talking point designed to protect minorities (particularly black people) from resentment that stems from the fact they score lower in IQ, so then IQ is blamed on environment. A study from the 1970s that measured black children raised in upper middle class white families debunked the idea IQ differences are due to poverty.

A ver big proponent of the poverty hypothesis is Jewish fella named Eric Turkheimer who has been debunked here
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WPV6Hz9iwQo/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnes...Adoption_Study

The study you mentioned.

It clearly shows that Black people have a lower IQ, even if they're raised by wealthy White people.

[Roy]

Pathetic fucking maps.

We know you hate southern Europeans, don't have to do maps.

Plus, the Becker at al. data showed Greece at the mid 90s to 100 almost. You just fused the fucking Lynn data.

This was literally a low IQ move from him.

[JamesBond007]

IQ is the most predictively (and therefor scientifically) valid psychometric. It has survived ideologically driven attacks for more than 100 years. Here is what left wing neuroscientist Sam Harris says about IQ

IQ tests are obsolete at best and pseudo-science at worst :

Scientists debunk the IQ myth: Notion of measuring one's intelligence quotient by singular, standardized test is highly misleading

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1219133334.htm

Forget about controversial, old-fashioned IQ tests as a measure of intelligence. A new machine-learning algorithm, which was developed by scientists at Caltech, can predict a person’s intellectual ability with unprecedented accuracy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.med...rticles/322329

Goodbye, IQ Tests: Brain Imaging Can Reveal Intelligence Levels

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.med...241680%3famp=1

[Supercomputer]

No, you didn't.

Plus, this study is way more accurate.



As for Greece's performance in raw IQ, considering the bibliography Lynn has taken for Greece in his studies in comparison to the bibliography of other countries, I would say it's shit. In particular, he put an age sample for Greece that begins from the age of 5 while other countries begin at 10. This is vastly unfair as countries that include lower ages in their sample will inevitably get lower scores.

It's also the immigration factor. We have Albanians who on average score 80-82 IQ points. No offence here.

IQ researches do control for age. Do you think they are stupid?

As for that study by Buj from 1981 I am aware of it. It is not representative for the whole countries. For example his number for Yugoslavia of 103,6 comes only from Croatia. (You can check sources in the xls by Becker I linked. Buj didn't study any other Yugo republics but Croatia). Also it is just one study, Lynn and Becker collected and synchronized multiple studies and they include the one from Buj so I would say they are more reliable.

[Supercomputer]

IQ tests are obsolete at best and pseudo-science at worst :

Scientists debunk the IQ myth: Notion of measuring one's intelligence quotient by singular, standardized test is highly misleading

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1219133334.htm

Forget about controversial, old-fashioned IQ tests as a measure of intelligence. A new machine-learning algorithm, which was developed by scientists at Caltech, can predict a person’s intellectual ability with unprecedented accuracy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.med...rticles/322329

Goodbye, IQ Tests: Brain Imaging Can Reveal Intelligence Levels

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.med...241680%3famp=1

No it's not. IQ denial is just pseudoscience designed to protect minorities and "prevent racism". If IQ didn't correlate with race nobody would dispute IQ.

[Dunai]

Actually as this has been debunked. It a politically motivated talking point designed to protect minorities (particularly black people) from resentment that stems from the fact they score lower in IQ, so then IQ is blamed on environment. A study from the 1970s that measured black children raised in upper middle class white families debunked the idea IQ differences are due to poverty.

A ver big proponent of the poverty hypothesis is Jewish fella named Eric Turkheimer who has been debunked here
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WPV6Hz9iwQo/

Of course there will always be some people with a degree in sociology and psychology that will try to claim race is in direct relation with IQ, but in no academic circles are such theories remotely accepted. All reputable scientists correlate IQ levels with the surrounding and not genetics. I am not surprised that Alt-Right and Neo-Fascist circles love to spread the IQ=race theory, since this totally serves their propaganda to classify groups of people as inferior just because their ethnic or racial background. Real academics, who have positions at faculties and universities have debunked such dated theories already for decades.