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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Dance View Post
    Not at all buddy, you're twisting the meaning of the word discovery in order to promote your agenda. America was already populated & had civilizations. Not on the scale of old wold civilizations, but civilizations nonetheless, with their economic activities, social stratifications, mythologies et al. There's nothing wrong with accepting this, you're not gonna die.
    You have the agenda, not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiăo de Góis View Post
    This point of view isn't incorrect. The ottomans forced us to find another route. If Constantinople hadn't fall a few years before this wound't be necessary.



    Also this made Columbus to search for an alternative route.
    That part is accurate. And looking at the map you know why Dutch made a stop at the 1/2 point to India, AKA S. Africa.

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