Very simple British Isles calculator :

[JamesBond007]

So, Davidski is getting rid of modern Data Sheets and says you can model your modern Ancestry with Iron Age and Medieval samples.



Average East English Saxon admixture should be 38 while Scottish and Welsh should be around 30. I used the Iron Age average but individual Saxon samples because some Saxon samples are more 'proper' i.e. more Dutch or Scandinavian shifted.

Other models I have used seemed to overestimate my Saxon admixture :

England_Saxon:I0157,0.129758,0.140143,0.065996,0.059109,0.037853,0.019801,0.00752,0.007615,0.006749,-0.00656,-0.006496,0.008992,-0.009217,-0.01156,0.028908,0.007955,-0.006258,0.000253,0.008045,0.009755,0.003619,-0.003215,-0.005176,0.025666,-0.002874
England_Saxon:I0159,0.130897,0.135065,0.062979,0.053618,0.038161,0.023148,0.00329,0.006461,0.001023,-0.000729,-0.001299,0.006894,-0.014569,-0.010322,0.028366,0.010342,-0.007432,0.000507,0.004525,0.008254,0.001373,0.007296,-0.005916,0.012773,0.003592
England_Saxon:I0161,0.12862,0.13405,0.061848,0.048127,0.04647,0.020638,0.004465,0.005077,0.006749,0.004738,-0.002436,0.004946,-0.006987,-0.012799,0.024158,0.006895,0.004563,0.0019,0.003645,0.005503,0.002246,-0.00272,0.006779,0.016267,0.003233
England_Saxon:I0769,0.129758,0.132019,0.070899,0.059432,0.044624,0.025937,0.00282,0.005538,0,-0.006743,-0.006171,0.004796,-0.012785,-0.012386,0.028366,0.0179,0.00691,-0.003674,0.006159,0.008004,0.008235,0.005193,0.00037,0.019521,0.002036
England_Saxon:I0773,0.141141,0.126941,0.063356,0.071383,0.044008,0.024263,0.00799,0.011307,0.00409,-0.00656,-0.005359,0.005395,-0.01219,-0.013074,0.021172,0.011668,-0.001434,0.000887,0.008673,0.008629,0.010981,0.003957,-0.003081,0.015544,-0.007424
England_Saxon:I0774,0.134311,0.13405,0.054305,0.051034,0.038161,0.014223,0.013161,0.007615,0.001227,0.003462,-0.004709,0.002548,-0.00446,-0.008257,0.018051,0.009016,-0.01004,0.005448,0.005908,0,0.002246,0.000371,0.000863,0.016267,-0.00467
England_Saxon:I0777,0.135449,0.136081,0.063356,0.050388,0.040315,0.019522,0.006345,0.009461,0.01084,0.000182,-0.005196,0.001349,-0.003271,-0.020781,0.017101,0.020551,0.00326,0.002154,0.004777,0.008129,0.003993,0.00643,-0.00949,0.011929,-0.002754
England_Saxon:NO3423,0.129758,0.13405,0.068259,0.062339,0.0397,0.017012,0.004465,0.002077,0.001227,-0.007107,-0.007795,0.001499,-0.010852,-0.010459,0.027823,0.005569,-0.014212,0.004561,-0.000126,0.005002,0.009982,0.002473,0.002465,0.015183,0.001916 
England_IA,0.1317503,0.1307495,0.0601505,0.0480462,0.0350832,0.0201498,0.0048175,0.0036922,0.0042438,0.0041915,-0.0044248,0.0057322,-0.0105175,-0.018476,0.0180167,0.0100438,0.001206,-6.33e-05,0.0033312,0.003908,0.0038995,0.000247,-0.0012018,0.0114172,0.0004493

Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.02218995 England_IA
0.02772056 England_Saxon:I0777
0.02932190 England_Saxon:I0769
0.02996588 England_Saxon:I0161
0.03050188 England_Saxon:I0159
0.03401761 England_Saxon:I0774
0.03689108 England_Saxon:I0157
0.03793991 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.03882568 England_Saxon:I0773


Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.0081% / 0.02008094
61.2 England_IA
27.2 England_Saxon:I0769
11.6 England_Saxon:I0777

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.0081% / 0.02008094
61.2 England_IA
38.8 England_Saxon

P.S. since I am using G25, which is ultimately PCA, it might not scale right compared to other scientific methods but it seems correct to me.

[JamesBond007]

^ This is real deal nitty gritty truth mofos. AncestryDNA telling me I am mostly Irish, Eurogenes K13 telling me I am Irish, Eurogenes K15 telling me I am English. Eurogenes K36 analysis telling me I Dutch, and Eurogenes G25 modern sheets says I am Dutch :


Truth has no manners. It is no respecter of persons. It wounds kings as deeply as commoners. It cuts down the high, and confirms the lowness of the low. It may dress up for formal occasions, but it does so only in order that it may more shockingly expose itself in front of the assembled company. And just as it respects no one, likewise there are few who respect it. But those who do are granted many favors -- power, understanding, dominion, and of course the honor of the unswerving hatred of the ignorant millions.

[Grace O'Malley]

I'm very close to the Saxons. I remove them in many models because they dominate so much.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.5761% / 0.01576116
97.4 England_Saxon
2.6 England_IA

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01810072 England_Saxon:I0159
0.02356175 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.02552519 England_IA
0.02615760 England_Saxon:I0157
0.03000787 England_Saxon:I0769
0.03023447 England_Saxon:I0777
0.03040359 England_Saxon:I0774
0.03076276 England_Saxon:I0161
0.03199100 England_Saxon:I0773

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02505466 England_Saxon:I0774
0.02521146 England_Saxon:I0159
0.02677443 England_Saxon:I0161
0.02683976 England_IA
0.02833758 England_Saxon:I0157
0.02836776 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.03770922 England_Saxon:I0773
0.03827150 England_Saxon:I0777
0.03855419 England_Saxon:I0769

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.0710% / 0.02071029 | ADC: 2x
52.4 England_Saxon:I0774
47.6 England_Saxon:I0159

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.0039% / 0.02003896 | ADC: 1x
43.6 England_Saxon:I0774
40.0 England_Saxon:I0159
15.4 England_Saxon:I0161
1.0 England_Saxon:NO3423

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.9601% / 0.01960092 | ADC: 0.5x
36.8 England_Saxon:I0774
27.2 England_Saxon:I0159
19.8 England_Saxon:I0161
10.4 England_Saxon:NO3423
5.8 England_Saxon:I0157

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.9569% / 0.01956894 | ADC: 0.25x
35.0 England_Saxon:I0774
23.6 England_Saxon:I0159
21.0 England_Saxon:I0161
12.6 England_Saxon:NO3423
7.8 England_Saxon:I0157

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.9567% / 0.01956685
34.4 England_Saxon:I0774
22.4 England_Saxon:I0159
21.4 England_Saxon:I0161
13.4 England_Saxon:NO3423
8.4 England_Saxon:I0157

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.9567% / 0.01956685
100.0 England_Saxon

[calxpal]

I'm curious about this calc...
Distance to: cpalscaled
0.03341077 England_IA
0.03528006 England_Saxon:I0161
0.03834142 England_Saxon:I0777
0.04026121 England_Saxon:I0774
0.04676539 England_Saxon:I0159
0.04792128 England_Saxon:I0769
0.05134376 England_Saxon:I0157
0.05532220 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.05539370 England_Saxon:I0773

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 3.2568% / 0.03256820
50.6 England_IA
49.4 England_Saxon

[gixajo]

I will do the same you do in every model , excepting of course in those you do.

"This is a shitty model for me so i add some sources according to my ancestry"

Iberia_North_IA:I3758,0.125205,0.146236,0.06675,0.013889,0.053241,0.003347,-0.004465,0.002308,0.030474,0.034989,0.001624,0.008393,-0.017691,-0.00812,0.013843,-0.007292,-0.02047,0.00114,-0.00352,-0.002751,0.003494,0.000618,-0.008134,-0.016508,-0.002994
Iberia_North_IA:I3759,0.125205,0.140143,0.063356,0.009044,0.062781,0.003347,-0.00235,0.006692,0.02168,0.034989,-0.006008,0.009292,-0.016204,-0.008945,0.0076,0.007425,0.003912,0.000633,0.003268,0.001251,0.012977,0.004081,-0.006039,-0.007109,-0.009221
Iberia_East_IA:I12410,0.132035,0.146236,0.060339,-0.004845,0.066782,-0.005857,0,0.001385,0.034155,0.050115,-0.001137,0.012589,-0.025867,-0.012248,0.008822,0.012596,0.022687,-0.001014,-0.00729,0.008879,0.006239,0.007172,-0.009983,-0.013737,-0.001916
Iberia_East_IA:I12879,0.126344,0.151314,0.061848,0.009044,0.061242,0.006414,-0.010105,0.004154,0.014726,0.031162,-0.001786,0.009741,-0.021853,-0.015138,0.001493,-0.014187,-0.011474,-0.003041,0.013324,0.010005,0.009608,-0.004575,-0.01405,-0.007109,-0.000599
Iberia_East_IA:I3320,0.118376,0.152329,0.051288,0.004522,0.064935,-0.003347,-0.014101,0.005538,0.030679,0.049022,-0.002273,0.014237,-0.017245,-0.017203,0.005293,0.001989,0.012386,-0.005068,-0.001006,-0.004377,0.006863,0.000124,0.001972,-0.012893,-0.000359
Iberia_East_IA:I3321,0.126344,0.157407,0.065619,0.008075,0.062781,-0.013387,0.002115,0.007846,0.039064,0.045923,-0.000487,0.008692,-0.032111,-0.025873,0.011129,0.008221,0.007562,0.010642,0.007919,-0.00988,0.013601,-0.008779,-0.002465,-0.023859,-0.007544
Iberia_East_IA:I3322,0.124067,0.152329,0.05506,0.006137,0.06155,-0.006972,0.003055,0.002769,0.037837,0.055946,-0.003735,0.013188,-0.020367,-0.009083,0.017508,-0.013126,-0.023078,0.005068,0.004902,-0.006753,0.006863,0.000495,-0.005546,-0.018677,0.001437
Iberia_East_IA:I3323,0.121791,0.15436,0.05242,-0.002261,0.059703,-0.008646,-0.00564,0.003231,0.032928,0.05212,-0.006171,0.011839,-0.031962,-0.003578,0.004343,0.001591,0.011474,0.002154,-0.003142,-0.002376,0.002246,0.001607,-0.016392,-0.018195,0.002874
Iberia_East_IA:I3324,0.122929,0.131003,0.05506,0.015181,0.059703,0.007809,-0.002585,0.006692,0.019225,0.036083,-0.005846,0.004946,-0.026016,-0.00234,0.00285,0.022938,0.017602,-0.001267,0.01169,-0.008004,-0.00287,0.005564,-0.004067,-0.002048,-0.005269
Iberia_East_IA:I3327,0.124067,0.146236,0.050157,-0.018411,0.042162,-0.001394,-0.00188,0.004154,0.031292,0.054671,-0.016239,0.013638,-0.011447,-0.03069,0.011401,0.025059,0.01708,0.005448,0.004022,0.004252,0.001996,-0.002349,-0.008381,-0.002651,0.002395

Oh yeah, i like this result.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.2926% / 0.02292612
65.0 Iberia_East_IA
24.8 England_Saxon
10.2 Iberia_North_IA

[Daco Celtic]

Big Mama

Target: Daco_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.8153% / 0.01815277
88.2 England_Saxon
11.8 England_IA

Distance to: Daco_mom_scaled
0.02354073 England_Saxon:I0161
0.02535512 England_IA
0.02550658 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.02815003 England_Saxon:I0159
0.02830352 England_Saxon:I0774
0.03246515 England_Saxon:I0157
0.03351367 England_Saxon:I0769
0.03551092 England_Saxon:I0777
0.03649055 England_Saxon:I0773

[RyoHazuki]

Target: Ryo_scaled(English+French)
Distance: 3.7142% / 0.03714170
100.0 England_Saxon

[RyoHazuki]

w. added Iberian samples

Target: Ryo_scaled(English+French)
Distance: 2.8408% / 0.02840772
70.2 England_Saxon
18.2 Iberia_North_IA
11.6 Iberia_East_IA

[RyoHazuki]

Iberia_North_IA:I3758 is a sample that I pull too, it's very Basque like so probably representative of ancient Aquitanians.

Distance: 2.0466% / 0.02046605
59.4 Basque_French
31.6 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
6.2 Lithuanian_PZ
1.2 Berber_MAR_TIZ
1.2 Ket
0.4 Karitiana