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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephK View Post

    There is no "dividing point" between "Mongoloids" and "Caucasoids," but there is a distinct dividing point between SSAs and everyone else: The Sahara.
    Europeans have appropriated the Caucasian skull (the correct one is Indo-European), they exist outside Europe:

    "white" horn of africa:





    Black Caucasian:



    Black Bantoid (central africa only):


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    Is there any study that shows varieties of SSAfricans being closer to Caucasoids than to other SSAfricans?

    White can be a social group for all I care but ethnic diversity is not similar to racial/genetic diversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faklon View Post
    Is there any study that shows varieties of SSAfricans being closer to Caucasoids than to other SSAfricans?
    No, and that was the point of my earlier rambling. SSAs are quite diverse, but are quite separated from caucasoids/mongoloids. However, as some other posters have pointed out, there are a couple "mixed" 'breeds', like Australoids, who carry some ancient SSA DNA, and Horn of Africa types, who are in fact the result of ancient intermixing of SSAs with Egyptians etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faklon View Post
    Is there any study that shows varieties of SSAfricans being closer to Caucasoids than to other SSAfricans?

    White can be a social group for all I care but ethnic diversity is not similar to racial/genetic diversity.
    Quote Originally Posted by JosephK View Post
    No, and that was the point of my earlier rambling. SSAs are quite diverse, but are quite separated from caucasoids/mongoloids. However, as some other posters have pointed out, there are a couple "mixed" 'breeds', like Australoids, who carry some ancient SSA DNA, and Horn of Africa types, who are in fact the result of ancient intermixing of SSAs with Egyptians etc.

    Yes. Here:

    Genetic Structure of Human Populations
    https://web.stanford.edu/group/rosen.../popstruct.pdf

    A landmark 2002 study by Stanford scientists examined the question of human diversity by looking at the distribution across seven major geographical regions of 4,000 alleles. Alleles are the different “flavors” of a gene. For instance, all humans have the same genes that code for hair: the different alleles are why hair comes in all types of colors and textures.

    In the Stanford study, over 92% of alleles were found in two or more regions, and almost half of the alleles studied were present in all seven major geographical regions. The observation that the vast majority of the alleles were shared over multiple regions, or even throughout the entire world, points to the fundamental similarity of all people around the world—an idea that has been supported by many other studies .

    If separate racial or ethnic groups actually existed, we would expect to find “trademark” alleles and other genetic features that are characteristic of a single group but not present in any others. However, the 2002 Stanford study found that only 7.4% of over 4000 alleles were specific to one geographical region. Furthermore, even when region-specific alleles did appear, they only occurred in about 1% of the people from that region—hardly enough to be any kind of trademark. Thus, there is no evidence that the groups we commonly call “races” have distinct, unifying genetic identities. In fact, there is ample variation within races.

    Ultimately, there is so much ambiguity between the races, and so much variation within them, that two people of European descent may be more genetically similar to an Asian person than they are to each other.


    ALSO SEE:

    Larger Genetic Differences Within Africans Than Between Africans and Eurasians
    https://www.genetics.org/content/161/1/269


    Genetic Similarities Within and Between Human Populations
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1893020/


    AFRICAN GENETIC DIVERSITY: Implications for Human Demographic History, Modern Human Origins, and Complex Disease Mapping
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2953791/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epirus DNA View Post
    Yes. Here:

    Genetic Structure of Human Populations
    https://web.stanford.edu/group/rosen.../popstruct.pdf

    A landmark 2002 study by Stanford scientists examined the question of human diversity by looking at the distribution across seven major geographical regions of 4,000 alleles. Alleles are the different “flavors” of a gene. For instance, all humans have the same genes that code for hair: the different alleles are why hair comes in all types of colors and textures.

    In the Stanford study, over 92% of alleles were found in two or more regions, and almost half of the alleles studied were present in all seven major geographical regions. The observation that the vast majority of the alleles were shared over multiple regions, or even throughout the entire world, points to the fundamental similarity of all people around the world—an idea that has been supported by many other studies .

    If separate racial or ethnic groups actually existed, we would expect to find “trademark” alleles and other genetic features that are characteristic of a single group but not present in any others. However, the 2002 Stanford study found that only 7.4% of over 4000 alleles were specific to one geographical region. Furthermore, even when region-specific alleles did appear, they only occurred in about 1% of the people from that region—hardly enough to be any kind of trademark. Thus, there is no evidence that the groups we commonly call “races” have distinct, unifying genetic identities. In fact, there is ample variation within races.

    Ultimately, there is so much ambiguity between the races, and so much variation within them, that two people of European descent may be more genetically similar to an Asian person than they are to each other.


    ALSO SEE:

    Larger Genetic Differences Within Africans Than Between Africans and Eurasians
    https://www.genetics.org/content/161/1/269


    Genetic Similarities Within and Between Human Populations
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1893020/


    AFRICAN GENETIC DIVERSITY: Implications for Human Demographic History, Modern Human Origins, and Complex Disease Mapping
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2953791/
    All these boomer studies predate modern genealogical DNA testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    Europeans have appropriated the Caucasian skull (the correct one is Indo-European), they exist outside Europe:

    this is not the correct term for it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faklon View Post
    All these boomer studies predate modern genealogical DNA testing.
    No they didn't LOL. All of these studies happened 2002 or later. The funniest part about this comment, the Boomers would have agreed with you... as modern DNA testing does not.

    Boomers: 1946 - 1964
    Gen X: 1965 - 1980
    Gen Y, or Millennials: 1980 - 1994

    Here is something from 2020 for you to read.

    Race Is Real, But It’s Not Genetic
    For over 300 years, socially defined notions of “race” have shaped human lives around the globe — but the category has no biological foundation.
    https://www.discovermagazine.com/pla...ts-not-genetic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epirus DNA View Post
    Yes. Here:

    Genetic Structure of Human Populations
    https://web.stanford.edu/group/rosen.../popstruct.pdf

    A landmark 2002 study by Stanford scientists examined the question of human diversity by looking at the distribution across seven major geographical regions of 4,000 alleles. Alleles are the different “flavors” of a gene. For instance, all humans have the same genes that code for hair: the different alleles are why hair comes in all types of colors and textures.

    In the Stanford study, over 92% of alleles were found in two or more regions, and almost half of the alleles studied were present in all seven major geographical regions. The observation that the vast majority of the alleles were shared over multiple regions, or even throughout the entire world, points to the fundamental similarity of all people around the world—an idea that has been supported by many other studies .

    If separate racial or ethnic groups actually existed, we would expect to find “trademark” alleles and other genetic features that are characteristic of a single group but not present in any others. However, the 2002 Stanford study found that only 7.4% of over 4000 alleles were specific to one geographical region. Furthermore, even when region-specific alleles did appear, they only occurred in about 1% of the people from that region—hardly enough to be any kind of trademark. Thus, there is no evidence that the groups we commonly call “races” have distinct, unifying genetic identities. In fact, there is ample variation within races.

    Ultimately, there is so much ambiguity between the races, and so much variation within them, that two people of European descent may be more genetically similar to an Asian person than they are to each other.


    ALSO SEE:

    Larger Genetic Differences Within Africans Than Between Africans and Eurasians
    https://www.genetics.org/content/161/1/269


    Genetic Similarities Within and Between Human Populations
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1893020/


    AFRICAN GENETIC DIVERSITY: Implications for Human Demographic History, Modern Human Origins, and Complex Disease Mapping
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2953791/
    All of those studies prove my point exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephK View Post
    All of those studies prove my point exactly.
    No, they prove my points !!
    You're the type of guy I would drink a keg of beer with and argue till we pass out.

    I hand you a piece a paper with a 6 on it, and you see a 9.

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