"Medieval Balkan Slavs were pretty much like Serbs or Romanians" v2

[Insuperable]

1. Medieval from 5th, 6th or 7th century or medieval from say 14th century?
2. Likewise from what medieval time are those North Macedonian samples?

If we are talking about 12th, 13th or 14th century what is so strange about that?

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I closed the old thread, because some users were attacking each other instead of discussing the topic.
Let's start afresh and try not to let that happen again.

How it all started:

In June, Davidski from Eurogenes claimed that Medieval Balkan Slavs were similar to Serbs or Romanians.



He also said that the Roman era pre-Slavic inhabitants were similar to the Bulgarian Thracian I5769, but with more Steppe ancestry.



Today, he drops another hint at what's to come. He says that medieval samples from the country of North Macedonia look like Balkan Slavs and there was a huge genetic shift from the Iron Age/Hellenistic period that he attributes to the Slavic migration. He once again mentions that the Slavs that came to North Macedonia didn't look like Poles or Ukrainians, but genetically resembled Serbs, Montenegrins, Romanians, etc.

What forum is this on?

[ixulescu]

1. Medieval from 5th, 6th or 7th century or medieval from say 14th century?
2. Likewise from what medieval time are those North Macedonian samples?

If we are talking about 12th, 13th or 14th century what is so strange about that?

Exactly, we need to know the century of these samples, otherwise it might not be anything special.

[-Scar-]

Vlach pride world wide

It looks like the Slavic element is dominant in most of the South Slavs (expect for Bulgarians) even without including idea that they were heavily mixed and plot like Moldovans or Serbs or whatever.

[JohnnyP]

[Lucas]

It's getting worse. I heard rumours that Davidski thinks early Slavs in general were Balkan-like. At least some users on this Polish forum said that. https://old.histmag.org//dlugie-naro...#comment-83342

[Peterski]

Medieval Balkan Slavs were similar to Serbs or Romanians.

It means they were already mixed with local Pre-Slavic population.

[-Scar-]

It means they were already mixed with local Pre-Slavic population.

They could have absorbed some non Slavic ancestry during their road towards Bulgaria before they met Thracians. But I don't think they were Serb or Romanian-like more like Slovenes. If they were Serb-like the Slavic ancestry would shoot 70% in Bulgaria similar to Croatia.

[vbnetkhio]

how did i miss this.

this changes things a lot. the area roughly corresponding to modern Macedonia was spared by the initial Slavic invasions of the 7th century. The first Slavs settled there in the 9th century from surrounding areas.

[Lucas]

how did i miss this.

this changes things a lot. the area roughly corresponding to modern Macedonia was spared by the initial Slavic invasions of the 7th century. The first Slavs settled there in the 9th century from surrounding areas.

I think Davidski wasn't aware of that. Somoen could ask him.