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Thread: Which of these theories do you think is the cause of homosexuality?

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    Why not ask gays themselves?


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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Abominacion View Post
    The idea of genetic homosexuality can be ruled out for several reasons including the obvious fact that genuine homosexuals won't reproduce and pass it down.
    I don't think you are right about it, after all there are fatal diseases that still get passed down by heterozygous carriers. BTW check:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4924666


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    In USA, Black Americans are more likely to be anti-gay than White Americans are.

    Liberals always say that the reason there are more gays today is cause we're more accepting of homosexuality than previous generations. By this logic, Whites should have a higher rate of LGBTs than Blacks do.

    However despite Blacks being more anti-LGBT/less accepting of LGBT ideology than Whites (in America), Blacks have a higher rate of LGBTs than Whites do.

    The reason for this is there being more single mothers in the Black community and crime against children (such as being raped, which causes them to become traumatized and later become LGBT).

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black...nity_n_1989859

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...f-householder/

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...lack_Community

    The more "homophobic" Black community having a higher rate of LGBT members than the more "accepting" White community should really say a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    I don't think you are right about it, after all there are mortal diseases that still get passed down by heterozygous carriers.
    But that’s the thing. If such a combination created a gay person the bloodline would end there and so would any remant of the allele, gays would ne non existent at this point if that were the case. It’s not a viable theory, not to mention countless studies having disproved the idea of a gay gene

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Abominacion View Post
    not to mention countless studies having disproved the idea of a gay gene
    Obviously there is no one single gay gene but genetics plays a role and there must be many genes that influence this trait (most traits are polygenic).

    I think Chinese company WeGene even offers a report on gayness based on DNA.

    But that’s the thing. If such a combination created a gay person the bloodline would end there
    No because this gay may have cousins and siblings who carry similar mutations but are straight or bi (for example because they only carry one recessive allele instead of two).

    They are "carriers of gayness" but are straight.

    And they pass it down to next generations.

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    The Netherlands is seen as one of the most pro-LGBT countries (if not the most) in the world. Gays there are said to not experience discrimination and native Dutchmen are fully accepting of them. Despite that, homophiles over there have a much higher rate of mental illness compared to normal folk.

    https://www.aidsmap.com/news/feb-201...health-gay-men

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...article/481699

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24236852/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4655175/

    If you look for ethnic or religious minorities that are said to be highly discriminated against in certain places (such as Blacks, Amerindians, Christians, etc) and compare them to homophiles in the pro-LGBT Netherlands; I would be very surprised if they had mental illness rates compared to Dutch homophiles in the links above.

    It makes you wonder if poor mental health is correlated with becoming LGBT or if its something purely natural from birth without even a tiny bit of environmental influence.

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    If you upload raw data to WeGene you can check your Rainbow Index (how gay you are based on DNA):

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-Rainbow-Index

    "One thing that I found interesting in the WeGene report and that does not exist in the 23andme report is the "rainbow index", which basically is supposed to say if you are straight or gay, the spectrum is 1-100."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    It makes you wonder if poor mental health is correlated with becoming LGBT or if its something purely natural from birth without even a tiny bit of environmental influence.
    However, mental health is also influenced by genes.

    Two things influenced by genes correlate. Surprise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Obviously there is no one single gay gene but genetics plays a role and there must be many genes that influence this trait (most traits are polygenic).

    I think Chinese company WeGene even offers a report on gayness based on DNA.



    No because this gay may have cousins and siblings who carry similar mutations but are straight or bi (for example because they only carry one recessive allele instead of two).

    They are "carriers of gayness" but are straight.

    And they pass it down to next generations.
    Check this link for answers to your questions: http://www.queerbychoice.com/evolution.html

    If gay genes existed, then we would have historic descriptions of people claiming to be exclusively attracted to the same sex from birth, but such things don't exist prior to the late 19th century.

    There could be some genetic influence in your personality/behavior that would make you more susceptible to homosexuality, but you could say the same thing regarding one's politics.

    So arguing the genetics of homosexuality is not much different than arguing the genetics of career choice and political views in that regard (actually there seems to be more genetic evidence for the second part).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genopolitics

    https://www.aei.org/articles/the-gen...of-job-choice/

    https://smartvt.wordpress.com/2014/0...ur-lifes-work/

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    It's part of the human sinful nature. Sexual immorality.

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