Turks of Aegean shores, Greek islanders, mainland Greeks?

[princeton90]

How distant are these three populations, genetically? Someone on Reddit told Turks of Aegean shores are mainly assimilated Greeks long time ago but I don’t know.

[princeton90]

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[Kaspias]

I have been into genetics for almost five years and since the beginning, people claim Western Turks are "assimilated Greeks" while in fact Turkic admixture peaks in the West. Perhaps it is time to search what is the truth before argue about it. It is easy to find that information nowadays.

[Zeno]

I have been into genetics for almost five years and since the beginning, people claim Western Turks are "assimilated Greeks" while in fact Turkic admixture peaks in the West. Perhaps it is time to search what is the truth before argue about it. It is easy to find that information nowadays.

Don't western Turks have a significant, really significant European admixture, which is Greek in its majority tho?

[catgeorge]

To mainland Greece very distant - to Greek islands and Greek refugees of the 1920's share a significant west asian/anatolian admixture.

Kaspias is one sandwich short of a picnic.

[Peloponnesian pride]

I have been into genetics for almost five years and since the beginning, people claim Western Turks are "assimilated Greeks" while in fact Turkic admixture peaks in the West. Perhaps it is time to search what is the truth before argue about it. It is easy to find that information nowadays.

You seem cool guy,so i will be serious.And if i am wrong and you prove it to me i will say it.
But when there are "turks" of med pheno,when many of the genitsars were greek,when in the past in the west turkey there were there many many greeks,you don't believe that the modern day westerns turks have a high amount of greek dna ?
And there are even more proofs.

[Kaspias]

Don't western Turks have a significant, really significant European admixture, which is Greek in its majority tho?

Yes, they have.

You seem cool guy,so i will be serious.And if i am wrong and you prove it to me i will say it.
But when there are "turks" of med pheno,when many of the genitsars were greek,when in the past in the west turkey there were there many many greeks,you don't believe that the modern day westerns turks have a high amount of greek dna ?
And there are even more proofs.

Let me explain.

What is the definition of Greek DNA? If it means former Greek speaker then whole Anatolia has at least 50% Greek DNA. If it means Mycenaean then only Western parts have it, because there were legit ethnic Greek settlements in the Aegean region despite inner Anatolia had been just Hellenized. In any chance, Western Turks carry a big chunk of Greek DNA. Actually this was what I had been claiming while people say Turks are a mix of Armenians and Central Asians. No, Turks are a mix of Greeks and Central Asians.

But does it mean they are assimilated Greeks? I don't think so. There is a mass-mixing of Turks and Greeks in medieval which resulted in modern Turkish ethnogenesis, and Western Turks are the community that carries the most Turkic admixture in Anatolia, up to 50%. Assimilated should mean 100% Greek who speak Turkish and become Muslim despite don't have any of Turkic DNA.

[Zeno]

Yes, they have.



Let me explain.

What is the definition of Greek DNA? If it means former Greek speaker then whole Anatolia has at least 50% Greek DNA. If it means Mycenaean then only Western parts have it, because there were legit ethnic Greek settlements in the Aegean region despite inner Anatolia had been just Hellenized. In any chance, Western Turks carry a big chunk of Greek DNA. Actually this was what I had been claiming while people say Turks are a mix of Armenians and Central Asians. No, Turks are a mix of Greeks and Central Asians.

But does it mean they are assimilated Greeks? I don't think so. There is a mass-mixing of Turks and Greeks in medieval which resulted in modern Turkish ethnogenesis, and Western Turks are the community that carries the most Turkic admixture in Anatolia, up to 50%. Assimilated should mean 100% Greek who speak Turkish and become Muslim despite don't have any of Turkic DNA.

Fair enough. Accurate explanation. And, what do you mean by "Greek speaker"? You mean ethnic Greeks, who later mixed with the Turkics?

[catgeorge]

Kaspias continues to be an insideous clown ask him to send Luca Cavalli Sforza an email and ask what Greek DNA is.

[Kyp]

not very related