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    ^^^ 53 samples from one village?!

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    Very familiar name too:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raszków
    Last edited by Peterski; 08-29-2020 at 02:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    ^^^ 53 samples from one village?!


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    ^^^
    And these Ukrainians are/were in fact Poles? I wonder if they are of Polish proper origin, or Polonized locals:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_Transnistria

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    They still speak Polish based on this video, who published a study calling them Ukrainians, LOL?:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6629468

    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian1 View Post
    Looking exotic, some aren't even sure about the roots but still speaking Polish ....
    Poles from Latvia should be DNA-tested too: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Latvia-s-Poles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    ^^^
    And these Ukrainians are/were in fact Poles? I wonder if they are of Polish proper origin, or Polonized locals:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_Transnistria
    The village was sacked and burned several times (burned in 1617 by Poland and sacked in 1662 by feuding Ukrainian hetmans). So the population there probably moved in and out several times.
    In the middle of the 17th century, the population is recorded to have been a mix of Ukrainians, Poles, Armenians and Jews. It is mentioned that Armenians specifically used to practice Catholicism.

    "К середине XVII в. был весьма значительным поселением, в котором проживали украинцы, поляки, евреи. Среди жителей выделялись армяне, община которых исповедовала католицизм и по грамоте Ю. Любомирского, пользовалась автономией."

    "Жители села исповедуют православие и католицизм."

    Catholicism is still practiced to this day there, although there aren't any Armenians left.


    It is said that the Polish writer Genrik Senkevich mentioned that Rascov is the most Southern Polish avant-poste.

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    Известный польский писатель Генрик Сенкевич описал город в популярном историческом романе «Пан Володыевский». События, описанные Сенкевичем, относятся к 60-70 гг. XVII в., когда Рашков был самой крайней польской крепостью на юге, и в нём размещался сильный военный гарнизон. Город, по выражению Сенкевича, находился «на краю света». Вокруг него в скалистых склонах берега Днестра чернело множество пещер."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    The village was sacked and burned several times (burned in 1617 by Poland and sacked in 1662 by feuding Ukrainian hetmans). So the population there probably moved in and out several times.
    In the middle of the 17th century, the population is recorded to have been a mix of Ukrainians, Poles, Armenians and Jews. It is mentioned that Armenians specifically used to practice Catholicism.

    "К середине XVII в. был весьма значительным поселением, в котором проживали украинцы, поляки, евреи. Среди жителей выделялись армяне, община которых исповедовала католицизм и по грамоте Ю. Любомирского, пользовалась автономией."

    "Жители села исповедуют православие и католицизм."

    Catholicism is still practiced to this day there, although there aren't any Armenians left.


    It is said that the Polish writer Genrik Senkevich [Henryk Sienkiewicz] mentioned that Rascov is the most Southern Polish settlement.

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    Известный польский писатель Генрик Сенкевич описал город в популярном историческом романе «Пан Володыевский». События, описанные Сенкевичем, относятся к 60-70 гг. XVII в., когда Рашков был самой крайней польской крепостью на юге, и в нём размещался сильный военный гарнизон. Город, по выражению Сенкевича, находился «на краю света». Вокруг него в скалистых склонах берега Днестра чернело множество пещер."

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    This high % of R1b could be partially from those Armenians who lived there.

    The name itself sounds Polish. There is a town of the same name in my region:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raszk%C3%B3w

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    IMO they should divide the samples by voivodeship based on birthplaces of most distant direct paternal ancestors, not place of residence,
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    They would have two datasets for the price (cost) of one dataset:

    1) 2705 samples of Y-DNA according to their modern locations

    2) 2705 samples of Y-DNA according to oldest known ancestor

    Saving money is not their strength it seems.

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