Athena was berber,is that true ? and why ?+PROOF

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The first notable appearance of Libyan influence on the Cyrenaican-Greek beliefs is the name Cyrenaica itself. This name was originally the name of a legendary (mythic) Berber woman warrior who was known as Cyre. Cyre was, according to the legend, a courageous lion-hunting woman. She gave her name to the city Cyrenaica. The emigrating Greeks made her their protector besides their Greek god Apollo.[22]

The Greeks of Cyrenaica seemed also to have adopted some Berber customs and intermarried with the Berber women. Herodotus (Book IV 120) reported that the Libyans taught the Greeks how to yoke four horses to a chariot( Romans will use these Lybian chariots later, but through Greek taught). The Cyrenaican Greeks built temples for the Libyan god Ammon instead of their original god Zeus. They later identified their supreme god Zeus with the Libyan Ammon.[23] Some of them continued worshipping Ammon himself. Ammon's cult was so widespread among the Greeks that even Alexander the Great decided to be declared as the son of Zeus in the Siwan temple by the Libyan priests of Ammon.[24]

The ancient historians mentioned that some Greek deities were of Libyan origin. The daughter of Zeus Athena was considered by some ancient historians, like Herodotus, to have been of Libyan origin. Those ancient historians stated that she was originally honored by the Libya around Lake Tritonis where she had been born from the god Poseidon and Lake Tritonis, according to the Libyan legend. Herodotus wrote that the Aegis and the clothes of Athena are typical for Libyan woman.

Herodotus also stated that Poseidon (an important Greek sea god) was adopted from the Libyans by the Greeks. He emphasized that no other people worshipped Poseidon from early times apart from the Libyans who spread his cult:

[..]these I think received their naming from the Pelasgians, except Poseidon; but about this god the Hellenes learnt from the Libyans, for no people except the Libyans have had the name of Poseidon from the first and have paid honour to this god always.[25]

Some other Greek deities were related to Libya. The goddess Lamia was believed to have originated in Libya, like Medusa and the Gorgons. The Greeks seem also to have met the god Triton in Libya. The modern day Berbers may have believed that the Hesperides was situated in modern Morocco. Some scholars situate it in Benghazi of Irassa where Antaeus lived, according to some myths. The Hesperides were believed to be the daughters of Atlas a god that is associated with the Atlas mountains by Herodotus. The Atlas mountain was worshipped by the Berbers and the Canary Islands represented to many the daughters of Atlas. But that could be wrong since all historical evidences states that modern day Benghazi was originally named Euesperides which gave rise to the mythological associations of the garden of the Hesperides. Most gigantic creatures existed in northeastern Africa, including Modern Libya, e.g., the giant snakes, the Hydra and the Barbary Lions on the coast of Tripoli.

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Greeks are Egyptian refugees

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Greeks are Egyptian refugees

WUT?

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The first notable appearance of Libyan influence on the Cyrenaican-Greek beliefs is the name Cyrenaica itself. This name was originally the name of a legendary (mythic) Berber woman warrior who was known as Cyre. Cyre was, according to the legend, a courageous lion-hunting woman. She gave her name to the city Cyrenaica. The emigrating Greeks made her their protector besides their Greek god Apollo.[22]

The Greeks worshipped their ancestors, why would they make a berber woman their protector. Besides the etymology of berber comes from Greek barbarian.

In Greek mythology Cerene is a Thessalian Princess and famed huntress who guarded her father's herds on Mount Pelion, slaying wild beasts with javelin and sword. One day, when she was wrestling a lion, the god Apollon spied her and was inflamed with love. He carried her off to the Hill of Myrtles (Myrtoessa) in Libya where she bore him a son named Aristaios (Aristaeus).

Libya was the daughter of Greek Epaphus who was also a Hyksos Pharao of Egypt whom she also made a Queen of Assyria as in that period it was Egypt’s vessel, just like Phoenicia also was.

I tried to find out when the Lebu people first appear in historical records and it’s ca 1100 BC. But the Greeks colonised Libya from the Hyksos period and they took up residence in Libya which is why Libya was re-colonised by the Greeks in 640 BC.

The Cyrenaican Greeks built temples for the Libyan god Ammon instead of their original god Zeus. They later identified their supreme god Zeus with the Libyan Ammon

Zeus was a historical king of Crete but also the Egyptian Pharao Sheshi. Sheshi is actual spelled Sesi and is the Egyptian rendering of Zeus which derives from the Greek word Zisi meaning to live.

After his deification Zeus becomes also a title for King along with the names of other Gods. Virtually every king from the heroic period used the title Zeus, (Lyceon Zeus was the first to do so) just like Amon was used as a title by the kings of Egypt, and just like Phoenician, Assyrian, Babylonian kings used the names of their Gods in their titles. After the deification of Julius Ceasar, the name Ceasar is also used as a title.

The ancient historians mentioned that some Greek deities were of Libyan origin. The daughter of Zeus Athena was considered by some ancient historians, like Herodotus, to have been of Libyan origin. Those ancient historians stated that she was originally honored by the Libya around Lake Tritonis where she had been born from the god Poseidon and Lake Tritonis, according to the Libyan legend. Herodotus wrote that the Aegis and the clothes of Athena are typical for Libyan woman.

All of Greek Gods were of Greek origin. But their dominion extended far beyond Greece, as the Minoan and Mycenear Empires extended from the Pillars of Hercules in Spain to those in Scythia and India and Egypt and North Africa.

So they entered into the Pantheon of other peoples. Like Satur for example, who was a Cretan king who ruled also over Italy, Egypt, Phoenicia..which is Italy was called Saturnia and why the Phoenicians adopted him as their own, not just because he ruled over them but because they had been colonised by Greeks. In Crete, Italy, Phoenicia for example there have been several kings that have used the title Saturn.

[Anaximander]

Greeks are Egyptian refugees

Hey Macedonsko Tatar, deschendant of Golden Horde......

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The Greeks worshipped their ancestors, why would they make a berber woman their protector. Besides the etymology of berber comes from Greek barbarian.

In Greek mythology Cerene is a Thessalian Princess and famed huntress who guarded her father's herds on Mount Pelion, slaying wild beasts with javelin and sword. One day, when she was wrestling a lion, the god Apollon spied her and was inflamed with love. He carried her off to the Hill of Myrtles (Myrtoessa) in Libya where she bore him a son named Aristaios (Aristaeus).

Libya was the daughter of Greek Epaphus who was also a Hyksos Pharao of Egypt whom she also made a Queen of Assyria as in that period it was Egypt’s vessel, just like Phoenicia also was.

I tried to find out when the Lebu people first appear in historical records and it’s ca 1100 BC. But the Greeks colonised Libya from the Hyksos period and they took up residence in Libya which is why Libya was re-colonised by the Greeks in 640 BC.



Zeus was a historical king of Crete but also the Egyptian Pharao Sheshi. Sheshi is actual spelled Sesi and is the Egyptian rendering of Zeus which derives from the Greek word Zisi meaning to live.

After his deification Zeus becomes also a title for King along with the names of other Gods. Virtually every king from the heroic period used the title Zeus, (Lyceon Zeus was the first to do so) just like Amon was used as a title by the kings of Egypt, and just like Phoenician, Assyrian, Babylonian kings used the names of their Gods in their titles. After the deification of Julius Ceasar, the name Ceasar is also used as a title.



All of Greek Gods were of Greek origin. But their dominion extended far beyond Greece, as the Minoan and Mycenear Empires extended from the Pillars of Hercules in Spain to those in Scythia and India and Egypt and North Africa.

So they entered into the Pantheon of other peoples. Like Satur for example, who was a Cretan king who ruled also over Italy, Egypt, Phoenicia..which is Italy was called Saturnia and why the Phoenicians adopted him as their own, not just because he ruled over them but because they had been colonised by Greeks. In Crete, Italy, Phoenicia for example there have been several kings that have used the title Saturn.

"Libya was the daughter of Greek Epaphus who was also a Hyksos Pharao of Egypt whom she also made a Queen of Assyria as in that period it was Egypt’s vessel, just like Phoenicia also was."

Assyria was never a vassal of Egypt. Actually historically for a period of time it was Egypt who became a vassal state of Assyria, but not the other way around.
Get your historical facts straight.

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The ancient historians mentioned that some Greek deities were of Libyan origin. The daughter of Zeus Athena was considered by some ancient historians, like Herodotus, to have been of Libyan origin. Those ancient historians stated that she was originally honored by the Libya around Lake Tritonis where she had been born from the god Poseidon and Lake Tritonis, according to the Libyan legend. Herodotus wrote that the Aegis and the clothes of Athena are typical for Libyan woman.

Tritogeneia was one of Godess Athena's Epithets. Tritonis is a Greek term derived from the Greek "triton," meaning "for the third time." Tritogeneia, thus "born for the third time," was a term used to describe Athena

It is said by some to mean "born of Triton," because in Crete they said that the goddess had been hidden in a cloud and that it was by striking this cloud with his head that Zeus had caused Athena to emerge (and not from his forehead). (Note that in Crete as an infant Zeus was given a wondrous goat named Amaltheia as a
wet-nurse; he later placed her as a constellation and supposedly used her hide, which no arrow could pierce, to make the aegis). The event was supposed to have taken place near Cnossus beside a stream, the Triton. It was also explained by making her the daughter of Poseidon and Lake Tritonis.

Obviously Lake Tritonis in Libya took its name from the river Triton in Greece. Ancient Greeks used to name rivers after persons. Triton was a sea god son of Amphitrite and Poseidon. He raised rocks from the sea and createdislands with his trident, and he blew on a trumpet made from a conch shell. He freed Aeneas' ships when they were grounded in a storm. Vergil (the Aeneid) says Aeneas, a hero who escaped the burning
Troy with his small son and aging father, eventually made his way with, a band of fugitives to the place where his descendants founded Rome.

Probably her epithet, 'tritogencia', originated in Boeotia, Greece from where it was conveyed by colonists to Cyrene and then to Libya, where there was a river Triton which the Greeks had named after Triton. Here some local berbers identified their own divinity, connected with the water and also of a warlike character, with Athena.

The Athena cult was based in part on the Atthis cult which was began at Athens in 1440 BC. This was merged with the Egyptian Neith cult which was brought to Greece by Danus, the descendant of Greek Hyksos (recorded in Egyptian texts) between 1488 and 1472 BC.

Inscriptions bearing the names of ALL of the Greek Gods, including Zeus, Dionysus, Poseidon and Athena have been found at Mycenaean's sites dating back to before 1250 BC.

The cult of Atthis 1460-1444 BC the daughter of Cranaus king of Athens (1459-1404) was set up after she died as a maiden and later become associated with the worship of Athena. Attica formerly known as Acte was named after her. Erichthonius who is said to have set up a wooden image of Athena was reputed to be either Atthis or Athena’s son by Hephaestus. Since Amphictyon the son of Deukalion the king of Athens (1404-1399 BC) was married to Cranaus daughter it is highly probable that Amphictyon was the Hephaestus referred to in the myths. The most likely explanation is that in the poetic version of this story the author made Amphictyon appear to Atthis in the form of Hephaestus and Atthis herself appeared in the form of Athena.

Erichthonius the king of Troy and Erichthonius the king of Athens were most probably one and the same person since the Athenians and Trojans always claimed they had a common ancestry. According to Trojan mythology Erichthonius was the son of Dardanus and Batia the daughter of Teucer (1460-1440 BC). Teucer ruled over the Hittites too and were known to them as king Tudhaliya II (1460-1440 BC) whose name is also the same as Deukalion (1460-1440 BC). Either there were 4 separate kings who shared variations of the same name or all 4 kings were one and the same person. Teucer was the son of Scamander who was also known as Xanthus. Phonetically Scamander and Xanthus are exactly the same name as Sekander, which is a corruption of the name Alexander. Alexander was the Greek name for Paris the son of Priam (also called Podakis) who abducted Helen and his name has been found in Hittite inscriptions.

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"[Paus 1.2.5] [Apoll. 3.14.6] At Athens after the precinct of Apollo is a building that contains earthen ware images, Amphictyon, king of Athens, feasting Dionysus and other gods. Here also is Pegasus of Eleutherae, who introduced the god to the Athenians. Herein he was helped by the oracle at Delphi, which called to mind that the god once dwelt in Athens in the days of Icarius. Amphictyon won the kingdom thus. It is said that Actaeus was the first king of what is now Attica.

When he died, Cecrops, the son-in-law of Actaeus, received the kingdom, and there were born to him daughters, Herse, Aglaurus and Pandrosus, and a son Erysichthon. This son did not become king of the Athenians, but happened to die while his father lived, and the kingdom of Cecrops fell to Cranaus, the most powerful of the Athenians. They say that Cranaus had daughters, and among them Atthis; and from her they call the country Attica, which before was named Actaea. And Amphictyon, rising up against Cranaus, although he had his daughter to wife, deposed him from power, expelled him and reigned in his stead.

Some say that Amphictyon was a son of Deucalion, others that he was a son of the soil; and when he had reigned twelve years he was expelled by Erichthonius and his fellow rebels. Men say that Erichthonius had no human father, but that his parents were Hephaestus and Earth. Others say that this Erichthonius was a son of Hephaestus and Atthis, daughter of Cranaus, and some that he was a son of Hephaestus and Athena, as follows: Athena came to Hephaestus, desirous of fashioning arms. But he, being forsaken by Aphrodite, fell in love with Athena, and began to pursue her; but she fled. When he got near her with much ado ( for he was lame ), he attempted to embrace her; but she, being a chaste virgin, would not submit to him, and he dropped his seed on the leg of the goddess. In disgust, she wiped off the seed with wool and threw it on the ground; and as she fled and the seed fell on the ground, Erichthonius was produced.

Him Athena brought up unknown to the other gods, wishing to make him immortal; and having put him in a chest, she committed it to Pandrosus, daughter of Cecrops, forbidding her to open the chest. But the sisters of Pandrosus opened it out of curiosity, and beheld a serpent coiled about the babe; and, as some say, they were destroyed by the serpent, but according to others they were driven mad by reason of the anger of Athena and threw themselves down from the acropolis. Having been brought up by Athena herself in the precinct, Erichthonius banished Amphictyon and became king of Athens; and he set up the wooden image of Athena in the acropolis, and instituted the festival of the Panathenaea, and married Praxithea, a Naiad nymph, by whom he had a son Pandion."

At the same time Teucer the king of Troy had a daughter called Batia who might be the Trojan Athena.

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Some other Greek deities were related to Libya. The goddess Lamia was believed to have originated in Libya, like Medusa and the Gorgons.

Medusa was a Queen of Hyperborea (British Isles). Chrysaor was the commander of the British mercenaries that defected to Perseus. Geryon is the son of Chrysaor the son of Medusa. The references to the people Medusa petrified are probably to the rings of standing stones.

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Here is what the Egyptian priests told Solon about Athena



"He replied: In the Egyptian Delta, at the head of which the river Nile divides, there is a certain district which is called the district of Sais, and the great city of the district is also called Sais, and is the city from which King Amasis came. The citizens have a deity for their foundress; she is called in the Egyptian tongue Neith, and is asserted by them to be the same whom the Hellenes call Athene; they are great lovers of the Athenians, and say that they are in some way related to them."

"You are welcome to hear about them, Solon, said the priest, both for your own sake and for that of your city, and above all, for the sake of the goddess who is the common patron and parent and educator of both our cities. She founded your city a thousand years before ours, receiving from the Earth and Hephaestus the seed of your race, and afterwards she founded ours, of which the constitution is recorded in our sacred registers to be eight thousand years old."


Ignore the eight thousand years old, they counted seasons as years.

Cecrops was the founder of Athens to chose Athena as the patron deity. But the first king of Athens was Ogyges. Cecrops ruled beyween 1482 and 1456 BC and was preceded by Actaeus and followed by Cranaus, Amphictyon, Erichthonius, Pandion, Erechtheus, Cecrops II, Pandion II, Aegeus, Theseus Menesthus, Demophon, Oxyntes, Aphidas and Thymotes after which the kingship switch to the kings of Pylos starting with Melanthus.

Cecrops of Athens along with Lycaon the king who the mountain is named after was the first king to make the worship of Zeus the official state religion whose descendents were still around ruling Athens in classical times including Peisistratus, Alcmaeon, Megacles and Clisthenes.

The Mysteries of Demeter were established in the reign of Pandion I at the same time as those of Dionysus.

Apoll 3.14.7] When Erichthonius died and was buried in the same precinct of Athena, Pandion became king [of Athens], in whose time Demeter and Dionysus came to Attica.

The sons and daughters of Zeus by mortals all lived after the Thera Eruption and Zeus was only made their father by the poets. The same applies to the sons and daughters of the other Gods by mortal men or women.

Everyone who was worshiped as a God in Greece was a deified individual. They were associated with other Gods and the forces of nature and this was done by the poets not by any priests since the job of the priests was to supervise rituals not to theologise.