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    Default Viminacium YDNA leaked

    From upcoming Reich lab paper.
    All samples were 1240K sequenced at Reich Lab, so they are SNP confirmed.

    Viminacium - 28 (labeled Serbia_Roman):

    E x 13 (L618 x 6; L618>V13 x 3; Z830 x 1; Z830>M123 x 1; Z1902 x 1; M96 x 1)

    G x 5 (PF3148 x 1; PF3148>L91 x 1; P303 x 1; L497 x 1; L497>Z1815 x 1)

    R1b x 3 (Z2103 x 1; U106 x 1; U152>L2>Z367 x 1)

    R1a x 2 (Z2124>Z2122 x 1; Z2124>Z2123 x 1)

    J x 2 (M304 x 1; L24 x 1)

    T x 1 (M184)

    I1 x 1 (M253)

    I2 x 1 (L596)


    Timacum Minus, Slog necropolis - 10 (labeled Serbia_Roman):

    E x 3 (M35 x 1; L618 x 1; L618>V13 x 1)

    J x 3 (M304 x 1; M410 x 1; M241 x 1)

    R1b x 2 (Z2103 x 1; Z2103>CTS1450 x 1)

    G x 1 (CTS342>FGC12126)

    I1 x 1 (Z58>CTS8647)


    Timacum Minus, Kuline necropolis - 5 (labeled Serbia_Early_Middle_Age):

    I2 x 2 (M423 x 2)

    E x 1 (L618)

    J x 1 (M304)

    R1b x 1 (P312>DF99)


    Lepenski Vir - 2:

    E x 1 (M35) - Serbia_Roman

    J x 1 (M102) - Serbia_Medieval


    Mediana - 2 (labeled Serbia_Gepid):

    G x 1 (P287)

    I1 x 1 (Z58>CTS8647)


    Gomolava - 1 (labeled Serbia_Medieval):

    I2 x 1 (M423>L621>CTS4002)

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    Can't wait to see what conspiracy theories the growing community of fans of pseudo-history in Serbia will concoct to explain this!

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    And comparing this with nowadays people of that area are they many diffrences?

    Edit:I don´t see many R1a, but, if it was a Roman settlement, could have a logic explanation.

    Re-edit:strange clades for r1a...Z2124>Z2122 x 1; Z2124>Z2123

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    And comparing this with nowadays people of that area are they many diffrences?

    Edit:I don´t see many R1a, but, if it was a Roman settlement, could have a logic explanation.

    Re-edit:strange clades for r1a...Z2124>Z2122 x 1; Z2124>Z2123
    Big difference. No presence of Slavic I2a and R1a clades whatsoever, not even among medieval samples (which are few in number though)

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    A lot of J2.
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    The Age of R1 is over... The time of the J2, has come (again)
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    I'd say Turanid/Alpine/Mediterranean mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    And comparing this with nowadays people of that area are they many diffrences?
    No any I2a-Din and no R1a (except for "Asian" / Indo-Iranian Z2124) in Roman era samples (n=39).

    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    not even among medieval samples
    Early Medieval samples either predate the arrival of Slavs, or Slavs burned their dead at that time.

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    Interesting is presumably Germanic I1-Z58 among Romans and Gepids (1 each)

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-CTS8647/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Interesting is Germanic I1-Z58 among Romans and Gepids (1 each)

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-CTS8647/
    It says: formed 4100 ybp, TMRCA 4100 ybp - so much older than the foundation of Rome (ca. 2800 ybp).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Re-edit:strange clades for r1a...Z2124>Z2122 x 1; Z2124>Z2123
    Scythian / Indo-Iranian / Turkic, today more common in Asia than in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    No any I2a-Din and no R1a (except for "Asian" / Indo-Iranian Z2124) in Roman era samples (n=39).



    Early Medieval samples either predate the arrival of Slavs, or Slavs burned their dead at that time.
    Why would they be found in Roman samples? it makes no sense. It's the Illyrian and Thracian samples that are relevant for this question.

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