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    Default Where does halal meat come from?

    The world’s biggest halal meats exporter is nowhere near any Muslim countries

    There are about 1.8 billion Muslims around the world, most of whom only consume halal meat. The Arabic word "halal" means permissible, and in relation to food, refers to meat and meat-containing products that are prepared on the basis of Islamic law. It involves slaughtering animals according to Muslim tradition.

    The halal-certified food and beverage industry is valued at $415bn. Eight of the 10 largest suppliers of global halal meat are non-Muslim majority countries, with Brazil, Australia and India at the top.



    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/in...063915359.html

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    In France, according to a judgement of the Council of State from December 2020, halal meat is incompatible with organic food certification label. This is a very good thing and I wonder if it's a first. In any case, I wish other judgements will emulate that elsewhere.



    https://oumma.com/le-halal-nest-pas-...conseil-detat/

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    no idea, ten years vegetarian

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    It's annoying to say the least. I have new neighbours, Moroccans, but I can never invite them to a BBQ. Because my grill also gets used for pork meat and I personally think halal slaughter is outdated. Letting the animal bleed out slowly is my definition of cruel, rather. Also, blood sausage is delicious and it's a waste of blood. And I like to support non-muslim/non-Jewish meat fabricants who cannot produce halal meat.

    And if and when I offer them my bakeries. I will hold quiet I have added vanilla extract. It is made from wodka and vanilla and even if nearly all of the alcohol evaporates, muslims seem to be against this as well. Ignorance is a bliss and they will never get drunk from the 0.01% alcohol that didn't evaporate.

    In my opinion Muhammad and Moses before have have invented those rules to ensure poor neighborliness and segregation. Easier for conflict and easier for propagation of the religion.
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    It comes from animals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandelion View Post
    It's annoying to say the least. I have new neighbours, Moroccans, but I can never invite them to a BBQ. Because my grill also gets used for pork meat and I personally think halal slaughter is outdated. Letting the animal bleed out slowly is my definition of cruel, rather. Also, blood sausage is delicious, what a waste.

    And if and when I offer them my bakeries. I will hold quiet I have added vanilla extract. It is made from wodka and vanilla and even if nearly all of the alcohol evaporates, muslims seem to be against this as well. Ignorance is a bliss and they will never get drunk from the 0.01% alcohol that didn't evaporate.

    In my opinion Muhammad and Moses before have have invented those rules to ensure poor neighborliness and segregation. Easier for conflict and easier for propagation of the religion.
    It's a shame our countries allow ritual slaughters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandelion View Post
    It's annoying to say the least. I have new neighbours, Moroccans
    My condolences.

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    In premises that undertake halal slaughter in New Zealand, reversible electrical stunning is used to ensure that animals are rendered unconscious instantaneously and remain unconscious at the time ofslaughter, thus complying with both animal welfare and halal requirements.

    Surely European and other Western nations have similar animal welfare requirements too.

    https://mia.co.nz/what-we-do/trade/halal/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yesno View Post
    In premises that undertake halal slaughter in New Zealand, reversible electrical stunning is used to ensure that animals are rendered unconscious instantaneously and remain unconscious at the time ofslaughter, thus complying with both animal welfare and halal requirements.

    Surely European and other Western nations have similar animal welfare requirements too.

    https://mia.co.nz/what-we-do/trade/halal/
    In Europe, stunning before slaughtering is obligatory in Finland, Sweden, Danemark, Slovenia and Belgium (in Flanders and Wallonia, but not in Brussels!).

    In Britain, for ex., it’s not the case:

    “The UK may need to adopt the New Zealand model, which has done just that, say the researchers from the University of Bristol Vet School. [...]
    In 2015 Halal slaughter in Britain accounted for more than 40 per cent of sheep and goats (small ruminants), but had increased to 70 per cent by 2018.”

    https://www.bristol.ac.uk/news/2020/...alal-meat.html

    But animal welfare is not the only problem with halal meat. I’ll describe how it goes, at least in Europe, in the following lines.

    Halal meat implies a discrimination in the recruitment for religious reasons, because Muslim sacrificators are needed and the people who touch the meat are often required to be Muslim, which is normally illegal (Kosher represents only a very small part of ritual slaughters).

    When you buy hallal meat, you pay a tax to the mosque that delivered the hallal certificate, so you finance that way the Muslim cult.

    And unfortunately, there is a lack of traceability of the meat. When you buy meat, you can’t be sure it’s not hallal, all the more so as the Muslims do not consume all the parts of the animal and not to increase the price of the hallal meat, the parts that they don’t consume go in the “traditional circuit”.

    Often (if not always), the slaughterhouses decide to do only hallal, to improve the productivity. In fact, if they produced and hallal and conventional meat, the production line would be slowed down, because everything needs then to be “purified” after a conventional slaughter, not to mix “unclean” and “clean”. Furthermore, it permits to export in the panoply of Muslim countries. That’s why halal meat has become the majority of the meat produced in many European countries.

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