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[Stefan559]

... VMRO was a Bulgarian Komitaa in Macedonia, not Macedonian. Whoever who was in VMRO doesn't felt like Macedonian, but Bulgarian, so this statement of yours is false.

Believe or not, that happens. That monument was later destroyed by VMRO. Just look at your name "Stefan", that name is Serbian. For the first time, I hear that someone in Northern Macedonia is called Stefan.

I don't believe in that.
Stefan is a international name, not only serb. Serb names are Dusan, Milojko, Milutin, Milorad, Miodrag, Uros. Milovan, and some other. I never seen macedonians(i have big number of books from macedonian villages, with geneology of families) with these names in the past. But today with mixing between serbs and macedonians they exist, that's sad, but that is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_(given_name)

My grand father says different, but whatever, if you say that, ok. But in the end of the day, all my ancestors were part of VMRO, and never felt like serbs.

[Stefan559]

Stefan, you are brainwashed by the Yugoslav Communist propaganda which your ancestors were brainwashed first, I can bet that one of your Ancestors was Serb.

Macedonians should not call themselfs a Serbs or learn the Serbian language, but only to accept the Serbian origin and get closer to Serbia as two friendly states. If Germany and Austria could, why can't we?

For which macedonians you speak? some of macedonians have some serb origin, but only in the northern part.
Macedonians in south part of the country are very different from serbs in general.
Most of serbs don't understand our language, how can we be same nation?
Genetically we are most similar with Bulgarians

[Castor]

I don't believe in that.
Stefan is a international name, not only serb. Serb names are Dusan, Milojko, Milutin, Milorad, Miodrag, Uros. Milovan, and some other. I never seen macedonians(i have big number of books from macedonian villages, with geneology of families) with these names in the past. But today with mixing between serbs and macedonians they exist, that's sad, but that is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_(given_name)

My grand father says different, but whatever, if you say that, ok. But in the end of the day, all my ancestors were part of VMRO, and never felt like serbs.

Stefan Nemanja, Stefan Kotromanic, Stefan Dusan.. Serbian rulers who were of Nemanjic dinasty had Stefan as name, because that was their dinasty tradition.

The only sad thing here is that your Serbian ancestor is now watching you from the sky and crying in agony when he sees how far his descendants have come.

This is what Serbs from Macedonia wrote to Prince Mihajlo..

"Your Light, merciful Lord!

Hearing on this day from our city Chorbahis, who ate, fined and stripped us together with the Turks from Kosovo until today, that even after so much of our bloodshed with our Serbian brothers against the general enemy Turks, we will remain under the Turks again, if we do not sign under Bulgaria; therefore please В. S. our only and true merciful master, to unite us with Serbia, because we are Serbs in Nahijas: Kumanovo, Skopje, Strumica, Stip, Veles and other surrounding, the purest and best Serbs, and our land is heart of Serbia, from which arose not only our holy Nemanjićs, but also the state and literature and fame and power and greatness and everything and everything that was Serbian and that is today: which testify among hundreds of whole, thousands of ruined holy Serbian churches, monasteries and old monuments; which is witnessed by many holy relics of Serbian saints and martyrs; as witnessed by so many episcopacies and metropolitanates; which is testified by our preserved purely Serbian old language which was spoken by our emperors and kings; as evidenced by our purely true Serbian customs, our real and purely Serbian costumes and much more. "

The insurgents, Serbs from the nahijas of Kumanovo, Skopje, Palanka, Strumica, Veles and the surrounding areas, sent this request to Prince Mihajlo on June 12, 1878 from Kozjak. The five hundred people were signed with two hundred and twenty village seals.


I would like Macedonians to return to their old origin, to be Serbs again. But if that is too much, at least be aware that you are of Serbian origin, we will respect that too. This nonsense about Alexander the Great only makes fools of you.

I advise you to read my entire post that I translated into English, and you will understand everything about your origin.

[Stefan559]

This is what Serbs from Macedonia wrote to Prince Mihajlo..

"Your Light, merciful Lord!

Hearing on this day from our city Chorbahis, who ate, fined and stripped us together with the Turks from Kosovo until today, that even after so much of our bloodshed with our Serbian brothers against the general enemy Turks, we will remain under the Turks again, if we do not sign under Bulgaria; therefore please В. S. our only and true merciful master, to unite us with Serbia, because we are Serbs in Nahijas: Kumanovo, Skopje, Strumica, Stip, Veles and other surrounding, the purest and best Serbs, and our land is heart of Serbia, from which arose not only our holy Nemanjićs, but also the state and literature and fame and power and greatness and everything and everything that was Serbian and that is today: which testify among hundreds of whole, thousands of ruined holy Serbian churches, monasteries and old monuments; which is witnessed by many holy relics of Serbian saints and martyrs; as witnessed by so many episcopacies and metropolitanates; which is testified by our preserved purely Serbian old language which was spoken by our emperors and kings; as evidenced by our purely true Serbian customs, our real and purely Serbian costumes and much more. "

The insurgents, Serbs from the nahijas of Kumanovo, Skopje, Palanka, Strumica, Veles and the surrounding areas, sent this request to Prince Mihajlo on June 12, 1878 from Kozjak. The five hundred people were signed with two hundred and twenty village seals.

where is documents about this? In Strumica people wanted to be part of Serbia? and after 20 years, zero serbian influence, very interesting. we have chetes of VMRO in Strumica and chetes of Andarti, but zero of Serbian Chetniks.
if you do not publish a picture from a original I do not believe in this.

[Castor]

where is documents about this? In Strumica people wanted to be part of Serbia? and after 20 years, zero serbian influence, very interesting. we have chetes of VMRO in Strumica and chetes of Andarti, but zero of Serbian Chetniks.
if you do not publish a picture from a original I do not believe in this.

That document is true, believe you or not. "ZERO SERBIAN INFLUENCE"? Serbs are Macedonianized by the Communist government, i can post some of pics graves that prove it. You can be proud of VMRO and the Bulgarians, i cannot forbid you to do that. But if I were you, i would be ashamed to do something like that, and I would be especially ashamed of what would my Serbian ancestor say on that, if they are alive today...

[Castor]

I am disgusted when I see a Montenegrin whose grandfather was a proud Serb, when I see him as a great Ustasha and hate everything that is Serbian. The situation is the same with Macedonians.

[MandM]

If you are from southern areas, Vranje, Prizren, Gnilane, Urosevac, Kacanik, Presevo. Then yes, we have similar dna with serbs from those areas. From dna results, as i know.
But we have nothing with serbs from northern areas, like Bosnia and Hercegovina, Croatia, Vojvodina.

Most countrys are mixd with there neigbors, true time you mabe mixed with greeks or vlah and maby Bulgarians thats maby why you are closer to them geneticly today then maby, but also remember Serbia wasent allways were we are today, serbian bordets were as a countey were more closer to macedonia bedor, people migranter, up and thoes whi did also mixed a litle with does people, but they are still Serbs nun the less, i am from Vojvodina at leas what i know from 1790, but i do also score on all gedmatch vahadou and such heavy Macedonia

[Crn Volk]

Why do Serbs want to make enemies out of us? Posting such crap is sure to do so. Keep it up.

[Novi Pazar]

If you are from southern areas, Vranje, Prizren, Gnilane, Urosevac, Kacanik, Presevo. Then yes, we have similar dna with serbs from those areas. From dna results, as i know.
But we have nothing with serbs from northern areas, like Bosnia and Hercegovina, Croatia, Vojvodina.

I’m a kosovan Serb and? Serbs in terms of genetic breakdown have closest ratios of Y DNA I, E, R, G to Macedonians, Bulgars are too different.

Anyway, if you want to be Turk then get rid of your Serbian dialect and speak your Gaugazi Bulgar language, drop your traditions and start to celebrate like East Asians, which, by the way Khan Asparukh did was the kinezo tradition of the yearly cycle of year of pig, horse, snake etc.....

Why the love of BuLgari?

[Novi Pazar]

Why do Serbs want to make enemies out of us? Posting such crap is sure to do so. Keep it up.

Enemies? Speaking the truth is good V’lk, not posting hung Serbs and call it Serbian attrocities on Macedon-b’lgari. This is bad. Like l said above, if you want to be a Turk then drop your Serbian dialect, stop calling yourself after a Serbian name MAKedonia and learn Gaugazi Bulgar Turk language.