Was Venice a Balkanized civilization?

**Faklon** · 09-08-2020, 09:47 PM

Many Balkaners use Venice as their gateway to Western Europe like it is Aachen, meanwhile :

It developped as an ER/Byzantine city before it became autonomous.
Used Balkaners for urban nobility (stratioti).
Controlled places in the Balkans like the Ionian islands, Dalmatia, Montenegro, Albania, Crete.
The architecture is mainly Romanesque including Byzantine adaptations (and later some Gothic input).

**TheMaestro** · 09-08-2020, 10:02 PM

We ruled whole world, but don't remind them.

**Ouistreham** · 09-08-2020, 10:03 PM

It would be closer to the truth to state that Venice italianized the Balkan region — the coast of Dalmatia first of all.

**Faklon** · 09-08-2020, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by TheMaestro

We ruled whole world, but don't remind them.

Well Venice ruled us and developped differently starting from the Late Middle Ages but I don't understand it is supposed to represent the superior West for some Balkaners. In the West, it was the last Byzantine bastion against Charlemagne.

+what we understand today as Venice developped a lot in the 18th century, most of these Balkanic places weren't even ruled by Venice in that day and age.

**Faklon** · 09-08-2020, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Ouistreham

It would be closer to the truth to state that Venice italianized the Balkan region — the coast of Dalmatia first of all.

By introducing them the mandolin and building fortresses for the nobility?

**Jana** · 09-09-2020, 06:29 PM

Venice was shit.

**Tacitus** · 09-09-2020, 06:33 PM

Not Balkanized, but "Byzantinized" imo.

We need Professor Emeritus Dr. Bosniensis, Ph.D in Balkanology and Byzantine Studies to weigh in though.

**Faklon** · 09-09-2020, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Venice was shit.

Venice was swag if you were really Venetian.

Saint Mark's Basilica,

Or Palazzo Loredan

are masterpieces of Byzantine architecture

**renaissance12** · 09-09-2020, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Faklon

By introducing them the mandolin and building fortresses for the nobility?

Venice Is The Craddle Of Classical Music and The Place Where Violin and Viola and Piano Were Born....

**Jana** · 09-09-2020, 06:38 PM

Yeah, city is very special given you visit when it doesn't stink. What I don't like about Venice was that it was trading Empire before all, with strong Jewish element - I don't have lot of respect for Traders.
Here is very nice Byzantine architectural remnant from Croatia for you:

https://www.google.com/search?q=eufr...=1903&bih=1005