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    Can a speaker of urdu understand persian? is that possible? or is only those shared words that they got from persia/arab?
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    As far as I know they are not mutually intelligible. I think Urdu is closer to Hindi that Persian but there are a couple loanwords that they will understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    As far as I know they are not mutually intelligible. I think Urdu is closer to Hindi that Persian but there are a couple loanwords that they will understand.
    its like with bosnians ? we too got from the ottomans many arab words like bazaar,hajvan,birjan,mashallah and so on..those are arab words that spread to turkey then to bosnia,or persia then pakistan and so on
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    No, they are not mutually intelligible. Urdu belongs to the same language as Hindi, Hindustani. It's just written in an adapted Persian script with a bunch of foreign loan words. The development of Urdu was mostly political/religious, associated with South Asian Muslims (not just Pakistanis, there are many Urdu speakers living in India and elsewhere in South Asia also)

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    no not at all , urdu was developed as language of peotry and love , so it adopted lots of good sounding words from turkish/arabic/persian , bollywood songs are written in Urdu , majority of pakistani and indian music is in Urdu.

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    Persian and urdu share alot probably about 30%. They share more than Arabic and persian. Some of the sharing is also very old because of Avestan-Sanskrit.

    If you type persian urdu in youtube you’ll find many videos




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurrem sultana View Post
    Can a speaker of urdu understand persian? is that possible? or is only those shared words that they got from persia/arab?
    Although both languages are parts of Aryan language family, I don't think they are mutually intelligible at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurrem sultana View Post
    its like with bosnians ? we too got from the ottomans many arab words like bazaar,hajvan,birjan,mashallah and so on..those are arab words that spread to turkey then to bosnia,or persia then pakistan and so on
    Similar concept however Bosnian is not in the same family with Turkish unlike Urdu/Persian. So the good analogy is to say for example German and English (both Germanic) with English having some loanwords from German. Also Bazaar is Persian and not Arabic
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    Quote Originally Posted by lameduck View Post
    no not at all , urdu was developed as language of peotry and love , so it adopted lots of good sounding words from turkish/arabic/persian , bollywood songs are written in Urdu , majority of pakistani and indian music is in Urdu.
    so my guess is urdu is basically a muslim version of hindi? how about hindi ,do they have many arab loanwords?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lameduck View Post
    no not at all , urdu was developed as language of peotry and love , so it adopted lots of good sounding words from turkish/arabic/persian , bollywood songs are written in Urdu , majority of pakistani and indian music is in Urdu.
    No, they are not mutually intelligible.
    I don't think they are mutually intelligible at all.

    Well the videos I posted (there is a dozen more on youtube) prove you're wrong.

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