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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    I am not surprised, Rep of Moldova is in process of linguistic Romanianization quite heavily since it left the Soviet Union. my Bessarabian friends who saw my maternal village admitted those are the last true Moldovans, everywhere else the Romanian is taking over. someone who says „ci faci” is only speaking Moldovan-accent Romanian, the proper Moldovan would be „și fași” / "ши фашь".

    if you want to save the language you need to standardize the proper Moldovan and recover from Vasluians what's lost on your side, it's not enough to officially name it Moldovan but actually use Romanian under this name... Штефан из дисыпойнт
    Cantemir noted that Moldova has a rare situation of gender-separated accents, with men saying ”ci faci” and women ”și fași”. Men were scolded if they spoke like women.

    This eventually faded out and even in rural Galați people would say ”și fași” and other distortions of ”ci,ce” to ”și”.

    I understood half of your proposed sentences, tho I am sure that at some point I heard ”chileri”, ”șîpî”.

    My maternal great-grandma from Suceva also spoke like this, to a degree that as a small boy I constantly asked my mom what she meant.

    ”Ia caldarea di sub laița din șurî” - had no idea what she meant when she told me this at 7 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    They spoke Moldavian and identify as Moldavian, Romanian for them was a slur word.
    That's Moldovenist bullshit.

    In all historical Moldovan writings, Moldovans refer to themselves as Romanians. Moldovan was a regional identity tied to the former principality, and not an ethnic identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    No one really believed in the idea of a "Moldovan ethnicity" until it became a part of the USSR. Most Moldovan's that insist they have little in common with Romanians are in fact of partial Russian/ Ukrainian decent and there is nothing wrong with that. It is just a bit annoying when they claim to be "Moldovan" speaking for Moldovans.
    Typical low IQ Romano argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    That's Moldovenist bullshit.

    In all historical Moldovan writings, Moldovans refer to themselves as Romanians. Moldovan was a regional identity tied to the former principality, and not an ethnic identity.


    Ne aducem doar încă cu toţii foarte bine aminte că pînă mai deunăzi ţăranii români din Bucovina nu se numeau altfel decît „Moldoveni”, iar limba lor era cea „moldovenească”. Sub înrîurirea limbii literare termenul „Moldovean” urmă să fie înlocuit mai apoi prin cel de „Român”. În Basarabia înrîurirea aceasta literară n-a pătruns încă, şi pentru aceea fraţii noştri de peste Prut se numesc încă şi astăzi „Moldoveni”

    Ion Nistor, Românii şi rutenii în Bucovina: Studiu istoric şi statistic (Librăriile Socec, Bucureşti, 1915), p. 73.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    Typical low IQ Romano argument.
    Low IQ is a requirement for Moldovenism.

    RN97 is right. There has never been a Moldovan ethnicity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    Typical low IQ Romano argument.
    Be more respectful if the person himself never insulted you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    <much nonsense>
    lol, he describes the regional identity tied to the former Principality of Moldova.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    That's Moldovenist bullshit.

    In all historical Moldovan writings, Moldovans refer to themselves as Romanians. Moldovan was a regional identity tied to the former principality, and not an ethnic identity.
    you are not right, but even if you were right (which you are not) it's Moldovans' right to self-identify as they please, especially those from another (independent) country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    my maternal grandparents and especially greatgrandparents only spoke Moldovan, call it dialect if you want, but when I speak their language to a non-Moldovan they sometimes understand maybe less than half to almost nothing, the fact is that the Moldovan words have been dropped in the last decades in favour of the Romanian ones but initially the languages were not totally mutually intelligible. now yes they are since most Moldovans in Romania only speak Romanian with Moldovan accent while we first spoke proper Moldovan, which I am lucky to have learnt from my mom's side, which luckily is from most remove Vaslui countryside, where proper Moldovan is spoken to this day.
    The usage of regionalisms might have been more common in the past, but the Romanian spoken in Moldova has always been intelligible to Romanians living outside Moldova. It's not like Moldovans spoke like Aromanians - Aromanian is properly hard to understand.

    Also you're incorrectly painting Vaslui as some bastion of old Moldovan. Romanian spoken in Vaslui is the same as the one in Galati, it has little accent. More accent and regionalisms you'll find in the regions bordering Ukraine rather than Rep of Moldova, for obvious reasons - many speakers there used be native in a Slavic language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    you are not right, but even if you were right (which you are not) it's Moldovans' right to self-identify as they please, especially those from another (independent) country
    They can obviously have a regional identity, nobody is taking that from them. But claiming a separate ethnicity is nonsensical - and let's face it, this happens under Russia's influence (Sputnik and the like). Even you admit it occasionally lol.

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