Was Ottoman empire founded by Muslims or Tengrists?

[Windstorm]

and the worst part is they do not look turkic,not the slightest

though here main actor Ozman seems to look more turkic than Balkan

[Manuel]

Wasn't Mehmed hidden Orthodox, buried next to Christian Saints? Many Greeks are of that opinion.

No Greek I know believes that and most Greeks aren't aware of his ancestry.

[Bosniensis]

No Greek I know believes that and most Greeks aren't aware of his ancestry.

except all Byzantine historians and their history books that are stationed in Athenian Library.

You can't know that because western historiography was written by Frankish and other Anglo-Germanic peoples who know nothing about Byzantine and Balkan history.

You haven't been reading about Michael Choniates, Demetrios Chalkondyles, Plethon... cause they are "liars and fools" according to western historiography, not only them but hundreds of others, not to mention Ottoman (Rum) writers and poets.

[Bosniensis]

though here main actor Ozman seems to look more turkic than Balkan

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Ok he looks Turkic...

But 1 in 1000 Turkic looking isn't a measurement for Turkish look.

[Manuel]

except all Byzantine historians and their history books that are stationed in Athenian Library.

You can't know that because western historiography was written by Frankish and other Anglo-Germanic peoples who know nothing about Byzantine and Balkan history.

I was referring to this alleged legend that Greeks supposedly believe. I don't know anyone who thinks Mehmed was Orthodox and was buried ''next to Christian saints''. Regardless of historical fact.

[Kyp]

isnt it normal some preislamic traditions survive long after? i mean in Sweden the churches had problems with the population hiding their nordic prechristian gods up until 13th century ,,,

Yes it's normal. In Islamic world this can especially be observed in Iran.

[Hurrem sultana]

Yes it's normal. In Islamic world this can especially be observed in Iran.

it can be observed everywhere.Iran has deep islamic past,Turkey has not

[Bosniensis]

I was referring to this alleged legend that Greeks supposedly believe. I don't know anyone who thinks Mehmed was Orthodox and was buried ''next to Christian saints''. Regardless of historical fact.

Well it's obvious that he was muslim, he descended from John Tzelepes Komnenos through Osman Ghazi, his great grand father John Tzelepes Komnenos married a daughter of Danshimend Turks, accepted Islam and they mixed into that Turko-Greek community that later became Ottoman civilization. He has lost his Hellenic identity whilist creating a brand new one but he never forgot that he was Greek, and he declared himself "an Emperor of Romans" he even mentioned his ancestor John II Komnenos and others. George of Trebizond wrote letter to him acknowleding him as an Emperor of Romans a title he gained in civil war. He was good to Greeks, he did not allowed Ecumenical Patriarchate to be destroyed, spared some Churches, some destroyed... Greeks were fond of him because he managed to save Orthodox people from Crusades and Westernization, later many followed him into Islam.

This is TRUTH.

But Turk won't tell it.

[Kyp]

it can be observed everywhere.Iran has deep islamic past,Turkey has not

Yes I forgot about Turkey's Alevis.

[Demhat]

I have seen Turkish Bulgarians sharing the trailer of what looks like being a popular turkish television series about the founding of Ottoman empire. I watched it and it looked more like a Siberian Tengrist religious ceremony than anything Muslim. In Mr Erdogan's Islamist country, it is interesting to see productions like this. What sort of historical perspective do turks have?

This is just part of some right wing associated producers fantasy. The founders of the Ottoman Empire were clearly 100% Muslim and by large majority culturally already indistinguishable to their Iranic neighbours. In fact the very first Ottomans were as fluent in Persian as they were in Ottoman Turkish. They might and probably still had some old Turkish traditions but their religion being Islamic is undeniable.