Was Ottoman empire founded by Muslims or Tengrists?

[Faklon]

Wasn't Mehmed hidden Orthodox, buried next to Christian Saints? Many Greeks are of that opinion.

No, first time I hear this.

There is the legend that he may hail from butthurt Tzelepes but it's borderline science fiction.

[Faklon]

And obviously the empire was founded by muslims, tengrism for Ottomans is like yoga for modern Westerners. Their culture was Irano-Arabic.

[Windstorm]

Turks had many religions before Islam, Zoroastianism and Manicheaism included. The fact is that Islam itself is influenced by Iranians/Greeks/Mesopotamians, Arabs absorbed a lot of foreign elements. And as i said, Turks and Persians were still mostly allies. Your example is very important one and shows that this was not everytime the instance. The Hephthalites for example were an Iranic empire with an important Turkic element in their army. Just an example. Ottomans, Safevids(+the next Turkic Persian dynasties), Timurids and Mughals are well known Turkopersian cultures in the history. And nevertheless everyone wanted to be the next Roman, Persian, Mongol(Dschingisid) or Indian worldpower.

Turks did not have many national religions, they had single national religion in the form of Tengrism, also shared by proto Bulgarians, Magyars, Mongols.
The religion and culture that influenced Turks the most was Buddhism and the Chinese culture. Some Turkic rulers of Gokturk were even Buddhist, yet there was no Zoroastrian prominent Turk.
The Orkhon inscriptions are a kind of Rosetta Stone, with one face written in Turkic and the other in Chinese. Ancient Turks were by far Chinese influenced as a primary foreign influence.

As for Turco-Persian relations, they were built on enmity more than any sort of friendship. After Persians successfully repelled two Turkic attacks to the east in Sixth century, the Turks avenged by siding with Romans against Sassanid. In early Seventh century, Turks and Romans raided together Sassanid territories and its allied nations such as Georgia, Armenia. Turks played key role in Sassanid losing the war against Roman.
Later as Islam showed up with Arabs attacking and conquering Iran, Turks were again launching raids into Iran with Sassanids having again to divert forces and ultimately losing.

It is not that Islam is a Persian cultural element, pretty much the other way around. After Islam's rise, never ever the Persians recovered. Arabs took the status of the ethnicity dominating the ''Brown Man of the Middle East''.

[Bender1999]

Again, Turks were and still are very receptive to other religions and cultures. We know that early Turks were Tengrists but we don’t really know many things and i believe there were different kinds of Tengrism. But just because of this it does not means there weren’t non tengrist turks. And AGAIN, your Sassanid example is very important but not the only chapter of Turkish-Iranian history. I didn’t want to answere here because it is obviously a troll thread, so this is my last post here. I don’t need history lessons, but you can believe in to that what you want.

[Windstorm]

That had all started with the statement of the other user pretending that Ottomans were indistinguishable from Iranic people thus Persian, Kurdish, Pashto people. Early Ottomans were clearly not that.
They had nonMuslim and non Iranic names such as Ertugrul, Orkan and they settled directly inside a Byzantine Orthodox environment. Far from the Iranic and Muslim worlds.

[Bosniensis]

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