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    Greece has just bought 18 fighter aircrafts Rafale as well as plenty of Scalp and Meteor missiles.

    Loaded with SCALP EG, its operational range is up to 560km

    The Rafales with the SCALP missiles can strike Ankara from the Aegean. And protect Cyprus from Rhodes


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    And from Cyprus they are even more damaging. Now imagine a scenario where Greek and UAE F-35 fighters (or just Greek) are in Greece, Cyprus and Armenia.

    Erdolf better start building his bunker,he should name it turkey's nest.

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    The Rafale has 14 missile positions against 10 of the F-15, 6 of the F-16, 6 of the Miraz, 12 of the Sukhoi-35 and 10 of the F-35. The jets would be fully armed versions ready for immediate deployment.

    They can also stay underwater waiting for their preys


    Pilot Who Flew Rafale Jets Says:”Rafale fighters would change the balances in the Aegean...the balances are changing drastically,to a very large extent. In essence, the Turkish Air Force will not be a factor, just a target for the Greek Air Force.”

    Greece to further shield the Aegean with 2+2 new frigates, 4 Navy helicopters, torpedos for the Navy

    Greece will also begin plans to recruit 15,000 new troops and pour more resources into its national arms industry and cyber-attack defense, Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis announces.

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    Spike NLOS: The multipurpose missiles that the Greek Army will supply

    This is the multi-purpose weapon system (and not only anti-tank) Spike NLOS of the Israeli Rafael
    From the Prime Minister's statements today regarding the armament programs that have been announced to be promoted, the least expected was the one concerning "anti-tank missiles" for the Army.

    This is, as Savvas D. Vlassis writes, the Israeli Rafael Spike NLOS multi-purpose (and not only anti-tank) weapon system, which incorporates an electro- optical set for target detection and a wireless data link for rocket transmission. "Instructions" in real time by the operator. The 71-kilogram rocket inside the launch can hit a target either directly after launch, or in the process receive changes from the pilot and be redirected to a new target. In any case, the hit accuracy is unparalleled top notch.

    The weapon system is considered to change the "rules of the game" (game changer) thanks to the long-range performance. While the range was set at 25 km, which is already a very high performance, in recent years the manufacturer has reported a range of 32 km, apparently due to the availability of new types of lighter warheads.



    The weapon can be installed on any type of land, air and naval platform. In the case of the Army, in on-board version, it is possible to use both for the destruction of main weapons systems such as tanks and for attacking naval targets. On the front of Evros, a small number of fire units can literally destroy Turkish armored formations from a safe distance, without even having the opportunity to come into contact with Greek forces. In the Aegean, the guards of the Greek islands will be able to attack either land targets on the coasts of Asia Minor, or naval units, achieving a No Access in the Turkish Navy. Thanks to the unique guidance features of the Spike NLOS, it is possible to attack even small boats that will be "anchored" on a rocky shore, seeking to hide from the systems of detection of classic surface-to-surface missiles.



    The Spike NLOS range of applications is confirmed by the recent interest of the US Army in supplying it with Apache attack helicopters! As the standard weapon, the HELLFIRE missile has a range of 8 km, at least three times the performance of the Spike NLOS means that the chances of survival of the helicopter increase dramatically as it will be able to pound targets while staying out of range of most SH anti-aircraft (AR).

    In the case of the Greek Armed Forces, the Spike NLOS could equip small naval units such as the Mk V or warships of unconventional warfare the MY V and AGINOR of the DYK.


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    Spike NLOS sets new data in the Greek-Turkish system in favor of Greece and integrates the Greek Armed Forces into a new era. Let's start with the fact that these missiles have a very long range for their size that reaches 25 km and it is stated that in the newer versions it can approach 30 and can attack targets that are out of sight, as the name says τους (non line of sight / NLOS).

    In addition, long-range is associated with the fact that these missiles transmit a direct image from the camera at their muzzle to the pilot, who directs them accordingly. Thus, they can be launched to the general area of ​​the target without the need for accurate information and then investigate with their cameras, locate the targets and their operators direct them against them with point accuracy. The least we can say about these missiles is that they will allow the attack of enemy armored formations from distances of tens of km, allowing the enemy tanks no reaction and without endangering Greek forces.

    It is pointed out that the Spike NLOS were originally referred to as Tamuz and were a secret weapon for the Israeli army, which used them from modified tanks, in which it had placed fake turrets with fake cannons so that their role would not be perceived. That is, these missiles were the secret asset of the Israeli ground forces for many years.

    Even warships

    However, it would be unfair to simply label them as anti-tank missiles, as they can strike a variety of targets, from helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles to warships. Although small, punch accuracy can make them extremely dangerous weapons against warships and even frigates. For example, even if a single Spike missile hits a Turkish frigate on the quadruple launcher of the Harpoon anti-ship missiles it can deal a crushing blow.

    Their ability to hit many types of targets is combined with the fact that they can be transferred from many types of platforms. And in fact small and cheap platforms. From jeeps to farm trucks and from helicopters to small speedboats. Especially on the latter they can be an ideal archipelago weapon, turning the Aegean into a death net for the Turkish forces.

    Consider, for example, a group of national guards spotting an enemy target on an Aegean island or in the sea or air near it. Using even a specialized application on their mobile phones, they can pass this information on to a speedboat or to a land group armed with Spike NLOS on a nearby island and they launch missiles at the general target area and then take over themselves identifying and attacking the target or targets.

    Adapted to Greek particularities

    Spike NLOS is the first weapon to enter the Greek arsenal that operates with the principles of a small, cheap, versatile and adapted to the Greek weapon system. It can implement the battle philosophy that the writer mentions as missile warfare in his studies. It can contribute to the transformation of the Aegean archipelago structure into a complex of access and denial area (A2 / AD) at relatively low cost, as it is combined with small and cheap platforms, such as jeeps or speedboats.

    It can also be mounted on helicopters such as AH-64 fighters and Army Air Force Kiowa Warriors, turning them into flying missile bases capable of launching precision fire from safe distances. When the Israelis presented a hammer jeep with a quadruple Spike NLOS launcher, they said that " what you see may not have wings or fly but does the job of a fighter jet " to emphasize its importance.

    So we are talking about a very important market adapted to the logic of smart, cheap and adapted Greek data solutions, which can also contribute to the development of domestic capabilities. And this is credited both to the military leadership, especially that of the Army and to the political leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the Prime Minister who not only ended a self-destructive period of inaction but also turned the page on the logic of armaments, adding to the "traditional" systems a weapon. new philosophy.

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    Greece bought them to prevent a war, not to create one. Let us hope they will not be used in any real battle. Aside from that, Greece buys some weapon, Turkey buys some weapons. It goes on an on. Then what? We can bomb the hell out of each other.

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