what is eastern Europe for you?

[Hektor12]

Considering a part of a map not being painted yellow a "hate crime" sounds insane and indeed rather childish to me.

Its a part of cumulative applications, which lead to hate crime. You arent brave enough to show your feelings open nowadays, right? You have to divide and dillute them, thats how it works. Dont fool me im not an infant.

The hole idea of the map is to also reflect on ethnical and cultural differences.

Secondary intentions altering primary ones? Expect me to accept that?

If I had painted the geographically european part of Turkey yellow and had left the asian part blank it would have ment that Turks living in northern Istambul are significantly different from those living in Istambul on the other side of the bosporus - which would not have made any sense.

They give you a certificate of "crossing through continents by running" after you complete Eurasian Marathon which takes a part on Bosphorus bridge. We also call European part of Istanbul "European side" in country. Were well aware of thats a different continent.

And i dont even have to give you the explanation. Today London there are more south asians, blacks, Chinese and gulf Arabs than British, would you also dare to leave London blank? What will you do with this logic for Paris and France in general in the near future? Would your USA maps also lack Texas and Florida because Mexicans live there? Your logic has countless flaws, i dont bother myself showing more.

No, you did this to show your disgust and hatred towards us, thats it.

[noricum]

Dont fool me im not an infant.

Not sure.

They give you a certificate of "crossing through continents by running" after you complete Eurasian Marathon which takes a part on Bosphorus bridge.

Great. In Iceland you can jump from the eurasian tectonic plate to the north american. Still Icelanders are generally seen as northern europeans / scandinavians because of their origins, culture, language, etc.

Today London there are more south asians, blacks, Chinese and gulf Arabs than British, would you also dare to leave London blank?

The ruling culture is still british, immigrants do have some influence but cannot entirely re-shape british culture because these immigrants come, as you wrote, from all over the world and are and are not united in culture, religion or language. Thus they would lack a common goal. The vast majority still wants to integrate and assimilate - admitedly to variing degrees depending on will and capabilities.
If, however, hypotetically 200000 japanese would settle on the Faroer islands, change the culture, genetic makeup and language over to japanese standards, then I would see the Faroer island as japanese, i.e. no longer culturally or genetically eurpean and therefore leave the islands white on the map.
(And no, this does not mean I hate the Japanese, or Faroer islanders)

[Hektor12]

Not sure.

Romanticising a "continent" to maximum extend and calling me "childish" ? Ok bro.. (Should i say Ok boomer? But i dont know your age.)

Still Icelanders are generally seen as northern europeans / scandinavians because of their origins, culture, language, etc.

I think or at least i hope, geography plays a direct role in this. In all geograpy maps that ive seen in my life Iceland was part of europe, like Thrace. If you want to define continents by people origin, culture and language; i think youre gonna call Australia, Usa, Canada, Argentina and Uruguay "Europe" because this places are roughly same distance to europe as Vladivostok and basically europeans live there. Although i have never heard such thing in my life calling Australia "Europe" because of that factors.

If, however, hypotetically 200000 japanese would settle on the Faroer islands, change the culture, genetic makeup and language over to japanese standards, then I would see the Faroer island as japanese, i.e. no longer culturally or genetically eurpean and therefore leave the islands white on the map.

Lets say, not 200k but 20m (why to limit ourselves?) of Japanese inhabited a part of Europe, as an example France, and it became a country very similar to Japan.

Would you dare to strip France off the Europe map?

(And no, this does not mean I hate the Japanese, or Faroer islanders)

If i were Japanese, and heard that you removed a part from europe because i live there, i would be mad, honestly.

[Gergő Marosvári]

It's seriously an indescribable feeling. I love the culture, folklore and cuisine of our "block": I am very proud to be an Eastern European.
Sending my warm greetings to my Eastern Europeans brothers and sisters.

[Ford]

It's where people use strange pasta types.

[Ayetooey]

VUR is east (real Europe), everything else=west aka wog.

[Wild North]

EuroVoc´s definition of "Eastern Europe":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuroVoc

And you may argue, that the only thing these countries have in common, is that they were all once under communist domination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuroVo...of_the_EU).png

[Chocolate_Hound]

I find it funny how some westerners would call place like Japan western because if it's very high living standard. But in essence Japan is as far from western world as possible, polar opposite in most of things. Arab countries are great example to show shallowness of such definitions.

Yemen and Gulf Arab countries are both SW Asian but difference in development between those is gigantic, much larger than anything in Europe.
As I said, if Kosovo becomes most advanced European society it won't become western european due to that.

Just like I don't think 50 years of communism can turn country like Czechia into eastern europe. Much longer moorish rule did not turn Spain and Portugal into noth africa, obviously.

Agreed, development isn't based on Westernness. If Western Europe and America became dirt poor, they're still Western lol, the West just stopped being wealthy. Poor hillbillies in the Deep South aren't any less Western or American than rich Americans. They're just different socio-economic spectrums of the same mentality.

Russia differs from the West because of its cultural/political/economic values that go beyond the superficial. The Soviet Union threatened the Western world for a good 50 years, heck NATO was literally created to stop Russian influence.

And to be fair the only reason Saudi Arabia and its neighboring states are rich is because of Western money loaning. Their economies are built off the backs of South Asian workers. So they are only rich because of resourceful happenstance, nothing more.

[Vožd]

I find it funny how some westerners would call place like Japan western because if it's very high living standard. But in essence Japan is as far from western world as possible, polar opposite in most of things. Arab countries are great example to show shallowness of such definitions.

Yemen and Gulf Arab countries are both SW Asian but difference in development between those is gigantic, much larger than anything in Europe.
As I said, if Kosovo becomes most advanced European society it won't become western european due to that.

Just like I don't think 50 years of communism can turn country like Czechia into eastern europe. Much longer moorish rule did not turn Spain and Portugal into noth africa, obviously.

Western Europe is geographically term, if Luxembourg become poor as fuck, it's still western Europe.

There is developed, developing and undeveloped countires for that categorisations. Geographical regions shouldn't be used for economical divisions.

Only reason why Europe was divided by both economically and geographically on east and west is because that was coincidentally economic division after ww2 (west stayed capitalistic and east become socialistic) and because it was nearly division on half of continent it could apply for geographically division as well.

[Tellmewhy]

Slavic speaking countries + Albania, Romania, Hungary, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.