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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Im 42% Balkan and 19% Greek. Im now curious whether a full blown serb has so much Greek or like 100% Balkans, and whether a full blown Greek has 100% Greek or some Balkans? And you think my results could equal a type of northern slavo-vlach greek? Or they are more typically serb (minus the gypsy obviously or indian and turkish)
    I also wonder what this Balkan cluster actually is. Did they find a separate genetic signature from the Greeks which is also based on Thracian or Illyrian? Unlikely. Albanians tend to score lots of Greek as well, while Serbs score the highest rates of Balkan.

    So it only makes sense to assume that Greek is mostly Palaeo-Balkan, while Balkan is a mix of that Greek cluster (Paleo-Balkan) along with some newly arrived Slavic admixture. So i.e. 60% Greek (Palaeo-Balkan) and 40% Slavic. This would mean that if you are only 20% Slavic and the remainder is mostly Palaeo-Balkan, then it will give you some 50 Balkan% (out of which is 60 % Palaeo-Balkan) and 50% Greek (mostly Palaeo-Balkan). But in reality you are 80% Palaeo-Balkan and 20 Slavic.

    So if you as a Serb score 19% Greek as you argued, it would mean that you have less Slavic admixture, and more palaeo-Balkan admixture than the average Slavic speaking Balkanian. So the algorithm gives you 19% Greek.

    Now, what is Palaeo-Balkan. For a Greek it could be mostly Greek, while for a Serb it could be mostly Thraco-Illyrian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianatomia View Post
    I also wonder what this Balkan cluster actually is. Did they find a separate genetic signature from the Greeks which is also based on Thracian or Illyrian? Unlikely. Albanians tend to score lots of Greek as well, while Serbs score the highest rates of Balkan.

    So it only makes sense to assume that Greek is mostly Palaeo-Balkan, while Balkan is a mix of that Greek cluster (Paleo-Balkan) along with some newly arrived Slavic admixture. So i.e. 60% Greek (Palaeo-Balkan) and 40% Slavic. This would mean that if you are only 20% Slavic and the remainder is mostly Palaeo-Balkan, then it will give you some 50 Balkan% (out of which is 60 % Palaeo-Balkan) and 50% Greek (mostly Palaeo-Balkan). But in reality you are 80% Palaeo-Balkan and 20 Slavic.

    So if you as a Serb score 19% Greek as you argued, it would mean that you have less Slavic admixture, and more palaeo-Balkan admixture than the average Slavic speaking Balkanian. So the algorithm gives you 19% Greek.

    Now, what is Palaeo-Balkan. For a Greek it could be mostly Greek, while for a Serb it could be mostly Thraco-Illyrian.
    I think you are right.

    Balkan cluster on MyHeritage probably mean cca 50% paleo-Balkan - 50% proto-Slavic.

    Who have more than 50% paleo-Balkan he will get some Greek extra, who get more than 50% proto-Slavic, he will get some Eastern European extra.

    My result

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    Distance: 2.0944% / 0.02094437
    60.0 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA
    23.0 Paleobalkanic:MKD_Anc
    17.0 Byzantine:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    I think you are right.

    Balkan cluster on MyHeritage probably mean cca 50% paleo-Balkan - 50% proto-Slavic.

    Who have more than 50% paleo-Balkan he will get some Greek extra, who get more than 50% proto-Slavic, he will get some Eastern European extra.

    My result

    How would inturpet mine 40% Balkan, 32.2% east europe, 27.8% Greek

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milenko View Post
    How would inturpet mine 40% Balkan, 32.2% east europe, 27.8% Greek
    I would say cca 52% proto-Slavic and 48% paleo-Balkan.
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    i belive on familytreedna i got does results, east europe 52 and south europe 48..damn you are good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milenko View Post
    i belive on familytreedna i got does results, east europe 52 and south europe 48..damn you are good
    I get same like you on FTDNA (raw data transfer), 52% east europe only difference I get 38% balkan and 10% british.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I get same like you on FTDNA (raw data transfer), 52% east europe only difference I get 38% balkan and 10% british.
    Could does 10% british maby be of celtic origin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milenko View Post
    Could does 10% british maby be of celtic origin?
    I think German in my case. But weird is that my parents very different results, much more east europe (both) and my mom get 0% west europe, yet they both plot south of me.
    but they tested with familytreedna, I just transfered data from 23andme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milenko View Post
    How would inturpet mine 40% Balkan, 32.2% east europe, 27.8% Greek
    What are your Gedmatch results? How much Northeast Europe do you get there? It could help shed more light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianatomia View Post
    What are your Gedmatch results? How much Northeast Europe do you get there? It could help shed more light.
    If you mean my baltic % on gedmatc its 29.18

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