Greek regional Eurogenes k13 averages

[Mingle]

I've got some Trepizond Greek kits for you guys if you're interested.

T002825DEL
T541543
T770570
T760702DEL
M844814
M221047
T487882
H801546
M320386
YE1111338
T224706
KA8924046
T540825
T508879DEL
QD9777746
LH3362124
QQ9451853DEL
MU8018749DEL
QK2972780DEL
M050351

The ones with "DEL" I marked because it showed that they've supposedly been deleted from Gedmatch's database.


Also, if you guys have any Cappadocian Greek kits would you mind sharing? Thanks.

Cappadocian Greek from Nigde: M239907

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.36
2 West_Asian 27.44
3 West_Med 20.97
4 North_Atlantic 6.37
5 Red_Sea 5.71
6 Baltic 5.18
7 Siberian 0.39
8 Oceanian 0.36
9 East_Asian 0.15
10 South_Asian 0.07


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Cyprian 9.62
2 Turkish 10.88
3 Lebanese_Muslim 11.49
4 Assyrian 12.81
5 Armenian 13.54
6 Georgian_Jewish 13.65
7 Syrian 13.75
8 South_Italian 14.18
9 Central_Greek 14.95
10 Kurdish_Jewish 15.06
11 East_Sicilian 15.41
12 Sephardic_Jewish 15.77
13 Iranian_Jewish 15.88
14 Azeri 16.46
15 Algerian_Jewish 16.57
16 Lebanese_Christian 16.68
17 Tunisian_Jewish 16.84
18 Samaritan 16.88
19 Italian_Jewish 17.19
20 Ashkenazi 17.54


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.3% Georgian_Jewish + 24.7% Sardinian @ 3.05
2 74.9% Cyprian + 25.1% Balkar @ 4.05
3 76% Cyprian + 24% Ossetian @ 4.07
4 75.9% Cyprian + 24.1% Kabardin @ 4.18
5 76.7% Cyprian + 23.3% North_Ossetian @ 4.23
6 75% Cyprian + 25% Adygei @ 4.27
7 62.9% Algerian_Jewish + 37.1% Abhkasian @ 4.47
8 78% Cyprian + 22% Chechen @ 4.7
9 75.1% Cyprian + 24.9% Georgian @ 4.72
10 51.3% Armenian + 48.7% South_Italian @ 4.75
11 61.4% Algerian_Jewish + 38.6% Georgian @ 4.83
12 77.3% Assyrian + 22.7% Sardinian @ 4.83
13 73.6% Cyprian + 26.4% Kumyk @ 4.89
14 52.8% Armenian + 47.2% Central_Greek @ 4.92
15 53.6% Armenian + 46.4% East_Sicilian @ 4.95
16 51.1% Georgian_Jewish + 48.9% South_Italian @ 5.01
17 76.7% Cyprian + 23.3% Abhkasian @ 5.05
18 79.2% Cyprian + 20.8% Lezgin @ 5.28
19 76.4% Armenian + 23.6% Sardinian @ 5.3
20 80.3% Cyprian + 19.7% Tabassaran @ 5.31

Pontic Greek from Giresun: M064800

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 39.16
2 East_Med 35.66
3 West_Med 14.72
4 Red_Sea 3.51
5 North_Atlantic 2.62
6 Baltic 2.19
7 Oceanian 1.01
8 East_Asian 0.66
9 Siberian 0.45
10 South_Asian 0.04


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 4.09
2 Georgian_Jewish 7.11
3 Assyrian 9.01
4 Turkish 11.8
5 Kurdish 12.03
6 Kurdish_Jewish 12.74
7 Azeri 12.88
8 Iranian_Jewish 13.65
9 Iranian 15.04
10 Lebanese_Muslim 16.3
11 Georgian 17.17
12 Abhkasian 17.97
13 Cyprian 18.24
14 Syrian 18.74
15 Kumyk 20.06
16 Lebanese_Druze 20.34
17 Lebanese_Christian 20.62
18 Adygei 21.08
19 Balkar 22.15
20 Samaritan 22.32


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.2% Armenian + 1.8% Sardinian @ 3.98
2 95.8% Armenian + 4.2% Cyprian @ 4.01
3 97.2% Armenian + 2.8% Central_Greek @ 4.02
4 98.1% Armenian + 1.9% Bulgarian @ 4.02
5 97.4% Armenian + 2.6% South_Italian @ 4.03
6 98% Armenian + 2% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.04
7 98.5% Armenian + 1.5% Romanian @ 4.05
8 97.9% Armenian + 2.1% East_Sicilian @ 4.05
9 98.2% Armenian + 1.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.05
10 98.2% Armenian + 1.8% Ashkenazi @ 4.06
11 98.1% Armenian + 1.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.06
12 98.8% Armenian + 1.2% Serbian @ 4.06
13 98.9% Armenian + 1.1% Moldavian @ 4.06
14 98.4% Armenian + 1.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.06
15 99.1% Armenian + 0.9% Ukrainian @ 4.06
16 98.6% Armenian + 1.4% Tuscan @ 4.06
17 99% Armenian + 1% Croatian @ 4.06
18 98.2% Armenian + 1.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.06
19 99.2% Armenian + 0.8% Southwest_Russian @ 4.06
20 98.9% Armenian + 1.1% North_Italian @ 4.06

[Leto]

How big was the impact of Pontic/Anatolian migration to Greece in the 1920s? I mean there might be many young people today in Mainland Greece with one or two such grandparents.

[vbnetkhio]

How big was the impact of Pontic/Anatolian migration to Greece in the 1920s? I mean there might be many young people today in Mainland Greece with one or two such grandparents.

among the academic samples, there are 3 probable half-Pontics from Athens, 1 from Smyrna, 2 from Macedonia, and one full Pontic from Macedonia.

maybe that's representative?

[Leto]

among the academic samples, there are 3 probable half-Pontics from Athens, 1 from Smyrna, 2 from Macedonia, and one full Pontic from Macedonia.

maybe that's representative?

Well, I'd say they shouldn't be removed because they are Greeks too and that migration happened almost a century ago.

[Rgvgjhvv]

How big was the impact of Pontic/Anatolian migration to Greece in the 1920s? I mean there might be many young people today in Mainland Greece with one or two such grandparents.

Most Greeks from Pontus settled in Makedonia. There are still many many families who haven't "mixed" (not the correct term, but you know what I mean) as they founded their own villages. Hundreds of thousands.

As for Greeks from the Constantinople and Smyrna areas, they brought influences of Greco-Anatolian culture to the current borders of Greece, but genetically they are the same as everyone else.

Cappadocian Greek impact is very small.

[bained]

Awesome job! Here one more greek from Patras - Velimachi,18.58,15.11,21.99,9.03,29.75,3.24,1.29,0 ,0,0.10,0.56,0.35,0

[JohnnyP]

sorry, it would take me 5 hours to sort them all into vahaduo format.
this was a "study" focused on Greeks, i think the vahaduo averages are good enough to represent Macedonians, they aren't too far from the truth, at least.



you can send them to me on PM, that would be great.

I disagree with this , even on mine(ph2ter's) pca you can see, nothing in common with ur's pca, these results are far from truth but okay like you said this is thread for Greeks.
I will send you in PM, when you have time do that.

[vbnetkhio]

I disagree with this , even on mine(ph2ter's) pca you can see, nothing in common with ur's pca, these results are far from truth but okay like you said this is thread for Greeks.
I will send you in PM, when you have time do that.

so you don't have the results in horizonal format? (e.g. sample_name,23,25,20,10,.... etc.)

btw, ph2ter's thingy is a t-sne, not a PCA. it works very differently, and it's basically useless for showing genetic admixture, imo.

[vbnetkhio]

I disagree with this , even on mine(ph2ter's) pca you can see, nothing in common with ur's pca, these results are far from truth but okay like you said this is thread for Greeks.
I will send you in PM, when you have time do that.

here it is with the new Macedonian and Bulgarian samples:



it's still very similar.

[vbnetkhio]

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