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    Quote Originally Posted by Deusex99 View Post
    You missed Greeks from Cyprus, Trabzon, Central Anatolia,...
    i know, i was focused on Greece. do you have any samples from these regions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    most of these are acadmic samples i ran manually trough admixture studio. it's a long and painful process...

    i can send you the raw datas if you are interested.
    Yes, please send me, I can handle.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    i know, i was focused on Greece. do you have any samples from these regions?
    Cyprus and Trabzon already exist, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Cyprus and Trabzon already exist, I think.
    many of the current averages are just one or 2-3 samples. some also include outliers, the old Bosniak average included one gypsy, or half gypsy

    it would be the best to redo all of them, and share the individual samples in threads like this so it's transparent.
    Last edited by vbnetkhio; 09-15-2020 at 06:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Yes, please send me, I can handle.
    sent. GreeceMaced1, 6 and 7, and GreeceSmyrna7 are outiers, the others ore ok.

    there are also these on gedmatch, i forgot to mention.

    AN9490832 GreeceNE11
    EX3288781 GreeceNE126
    YP5334141 GreeceNE144
    DZ3844219 GreeceNE162
    HF9687451 GreeceNE209
    QH6696371 GreeceNE231
    PK4586743 GreeceNE252
    HC8679428 GreeceNE284
    ET1384626 GreeceNE34
    ER2230325 GreeceNE59
    SN4968499 GreeceNE8

    PS6603919 Greek_Athens_TLA010
    KZ2878484 Greek_Athens_TLA011
    TG3224194 Greek_Athens_TLA012
    JC7104463 Greek_Athens_TLA015
    ND3161611 Greek_Athens_TLA017
    XT5766065 Greek_Athens_TLA018
    GK2555695 Greek_Athens_TLA019
    XX5948829 Greek_Athens_TLA020
    JQ3241309 Greek_Athens_TLA021
    ZX2481851 Greek_Athens_TLA023
    BQ9845365 Greek_Athens_TLA024
    MV5678028 Greek_Athens_TLA025
    MZ8683214 Greek_Athens_TLA027
    CE3055074 Greek_Athens_TLA028
    TE8676703 Greek_Athens_TLA029

    UD2497954 Greek_Preveliana_Irakleioy_B_Crete1DG

    CB4175809 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP10
    MF6461382 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP11
    ZQ9763942 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP12
    FK2990768 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP13
    LB4645049 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP14
    TL2705417 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP15
    XE5751468 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP16
    WA6074152 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP17
    YC9960374 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP18
    XG2096127 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP3
    ZQ8983256 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP4
    ML4823281 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP5
    PE2890423 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP8
    ZF5306199 Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP9

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
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    Thank you for informing. I will post when it's done.

    What are the samples GreeceF28k, F36k...?
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Thank you for informing. I will post when it's done.

    What are the samples GreeceF28k, F36k...?
    i think they are from Foca/Phokaia. their results look like that, and they are in the same dataset as the Phokaia sample.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    many of the current averages are just one or 2-3 samples. some also include outliers, the old Bosniak average included one gypsy, or half gypsy

    it would be the best to redo all of them, and share the individual samples in threads like this so it's transparent.
    Well, Cyprus and Trabzon are not exactly populous places. And why redo something that is already good enough? Not all original references are supposed to be deficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Well, Cyprus and Trabzon are not exactly populous places. And why redo something that is already good enough? Not all original references are supposed to be deficient.
    it's better to check. the Slovenian and Bosniak academic averages seemed "ok", but when i checked the individual samples, there were some obvious outliers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    before this i though Greeks are much more Slavic.

    on a pretty representative sample, the northernmost outliers are still less Baltic then average Macedonian or Bulgarian.
    This is what i always keept saying
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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