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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    Even the Wikipédia entry regarding the language is funny: "Serbo-Croatian – also called Serbo-Croat , Serbo-Croat-Bosnian (SCB), Bosnian-Croatian-Serbian (BCS), and Bosnian-Croatian-Montenegrin-Serbian – is a South Slavic language and the primary language of Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Montenegro."
    Just googled it, OMG hahah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    It is not absurd, you simply are failing to interpret the data. China could have 2000 different ethnic groups but if they represent 10% of the population you are less like to meet someone from a different ethnic group than lets say, a country that only has 2 ethnic minorities but they represent 30% of the entire population...

    Again, "fractionalization is the probability that two individuals drawn randomly from the country's groups are not from the same group (ethnic, religious, or whatever the criterion is)".

    Only 14% of the Chinese population considered themselves to be religious, they end up being homogeneous in the sense that they are the largest irreligious population in the world (much because that's what their Government endorses).
    Seen like this, it could make sense, although it generates many doubts about the interpretations that the study makes, seeing that they separate ethnicity from language, "cultural diversity" and religion. I do not know where they put bilingual people as in the case of Spanish, if they put them in the majority or minority language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defcon2 View Post
    Seen like this, it could make sense, although it generates many doubts about the interpretations that the study makes, seeing that they separate ethnicity from language, "cultural diversity" and religion. I do not know where they put bilingual people as in the case of Spanish, if they put them in the majority or minority language.
    Take it with a grain of salt and a margin of error as with any study. I posted in the OP that the list is biased by how the Enclycopedia Britannica chooses to list ethnic groups as well.

    With that said, I do not know what were you expecting Spain to be positioned at the poll numbers. I think it is common sense that Spain is not among the most homogeneous nations in Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    Take it with a grain of salt and a margin of error as with any study. I posted in the OP that the list is biased by how the Enclycopedia Britannica chooses to list ethnic groups as well.

    With that said, I do not know what were you expecting Spain to be positioned at the poll numbers. I think it is common sense that Spain is not among the most homogeneous nations in Europe.
    It is not a monolingual country that is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    No former Yugoslavia's republic is that homogeneous, all have ethnic minorities. In fact, with the exception of Greece and Albania the Balkan peninsula is one of the least homogeneous regions in Europe in my opinion.
    Yes it is. Croatia is most homogenos country in ex-Yu. By 2011 census ethnic Croats are over 90%. Largest minority Serbs at 4%.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...#Ethnic_groups

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Yes it is. Croatia is most homogenos country in ex-Yu. By 2011 census ethnic Croats are over 90%. Largest minority Serbs at 4%.

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    The most homogeneous in former Yugoslavia I can agree but in Europe there are several other nations that have less than 10% ethnic minorities.

    Linguistically, I know the majority of these languages are probably irrelevant in Croatia but nonetheless they are in official use in some local government areas for a reason: Italian, Czech, Hungarian, Ruthenian, Serbian and Slovak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    The most homogeneous in former Yugoslavia I can agree but in Europe there are several other nations that have less than 10% ethnic minorities.

    Linguistically, I know the majority of these languages are probably irrelevant in Croatia but nonetheless they are in official use in some local government areas for a reason: Italian, Czech, Hungarian, Ruthenian, Serbian and Slovak.
    I agree with Portugal being most homogenous country in Europe btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I agree with Portugal being most homogenous country in Europe btw.
    I was just reflecting if being more homogeneous would translate into fewer conflicts and internal divisions. It probably helps. But then I remembered that the most homogeneous nation in the world has been divided and is officially at war for more than 60 years: Korea. Political divisions. In Portugal the civil wars and internal conflicts we have had have always been political too or related to successions of thrones rather than ethnic conflicts. Exception being the expulsion of the Jewish and Muslim minorities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    I was just reflecting if being more homogeneous would translate into fewer conflicts and internal divisions. It probably helps. But then I remembered that the most homogeneous nation in the world has been divided and is officially at war for more than 60 years: Korea. Political divisions. In Portugal the civil wars and internal conflicts we have had have always been political too or related to successions of thrones rather than ethnic conflicts. Exception being the expulsion of the Jewish and Muslim minorities.
    Portugal is genetically homogenous too, no difference between regions pretty much. Iberia overall is homogenous, most homogenous of 3 great southern European peninsulas.

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    Finland has three official languages of which two is mandatory in public services, Estonia has one official language. Finland has many times more ethnicities, in Estonia only Russians are more numerous. Still Estonia is more diverge in those statistics.

    Finnish ethnic groups

    Finns 4800000
    Saamis 10000
    Gypsies 12000
    Jews 1500
    Finland Swedes 270000
    Russia 83 675
    Estonia 52 424
    Sweden 42 210
    Iraq 32 778
    Somalia 19 807
    Jugoslavia 12 229
    China 11 814
    Thailand 11 553
    Vietnam 10 817
    Makedonia 8 963
    Turkey 8 930
    Afganistan 8 918
    Germany 8 434
    Iran 8 114
    GB 7 055
    India 7 010
    Syria 6 232
    USA 5 951
    Poland 5 180




    Estonian ethnic groups:


    Estonians 910000
    Russians 330000
    Ukrainians 25000
    Belarusians 11000
    Finns 8000
    Others 40000

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