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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Turks from village near Štip in N. Macedonia. Pay attantion on their appearance, they look different from other people from N. Macedonia but also than Anatolian Turks.

    Yes, this is what it should be actually. Balkan Turks - differently than the natives of where they live - have Central Asian input. On the other hand, the Anatolian component is either absent or negligible. Thus, they are far from both of these subjects.

    I had a thread about them: Anthropology of Macedonian Yörüks


    Also for further reading on Turkic migrations to the Balkans: Turkic Migration to the Balkans
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Turks from village near Štip in N. Macedonia. Pay attantion on their appearance, they look different from other people from N. Macedonia but also than Anatolian Turks.

    the people in that video are yörüks and they have native admixture but such phenotypes also exists among Yörüks in Turkey, in 16th century those same nomads were sent to the balkans, so the ones in turkey stayed more isolated and you get an idea how the settler turks looked (minnute 39:30):

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    Serbian Chetnik Nationalists, were killing the Muslim Bosniaks, and i can't blame them for doing so. The Bosniaks were for centuries the vanguard/shock troops of the Ottoman Empire in Europe, used to suppress countless Slavic rebellions. Then in WW1 they took the side of Austria-Hungary, and when Yugoslavia was created, they wanted to be recognized as a national minority (while in fact they were blood Serbs who had converted to Islam). Then in 1941 they become the lackeys of Germany. In these circumstances, Chetnik and even Partisan hatred towards Bosniaks was justified.

    Bosniak Muslims are of course white race, but their constant historical alignment with non-white or anti-Slavic forces has made their neighbors regard them as good as sandnigs. Albanians are even less white, not even their DNA is fully European. Mussolini in the 1930s was constantly creating disturbances to the Yugoslav state by financing Croatian Ustashe separatists in hopes of breaking up Yugoslavia and colonizing the entire Adriatic coast for Italy. The fact that Albanians may like him doesn't really tell much to me, Albanians are the last people in Europe to be trusted when it comes to pro-white attitude.

    Now in the case of the USSR, the Germans recruited Turkics 1) because of manpower shortage, and 2) in hopes of convincing Turkey to enter the war on their side. Crimean Tatars, Azerbaijanis etc. were historically associated with the Ottoman Empire, and especially the Crimean Tatars were the foothold of the Ottomans in Europe for over 300 years. Now Turkey was smart enough to stay neutral in WW2, but in the event of a defeat of the USSR, I'm sure that Turkey would've entered the war and demanded an independent Muslim state for Tatars in Crimea, and Hitler would be obliged to grant it.

    What matters is that all German and Austrian governments of the last 300 years were constantly, in one way or another, allied with Muslims against Slavs. It's probably because German states viewed Slavic states as a bigger geopolitical danger than Muslim states. Metternich's Austria protected the Ottoman Empire each time Russia tried to defeat it, so did Bismarck's Germany. The Kaiser was a direct ally of the Ottomans, Hitler's Germany supported Bosniak Muslims against Yugoslavia and Tatar/Turkics against Russia, then in the 1980s Helmuth Kohl funded the Afghan Mujahids against Russia, and in the 1990s Germany was on the side of Bosniak jihadists against Milosevic's Serbia. German governments always loved Islam as a tool of realpolitik, and Hitler's government is no exception.

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    Is there information on balkaners who settled in Aydin?

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    How did your friends find out? I am currently researching too and cant come to a conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    https://ankasam.org/en/a-historical-...ons-to-turkey/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_Serbs

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrad_Forest

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhacir

    In Turkey there are millions of descendants of Balkan Muslim settlers. Their ancestors were assimilated fast when theay came to Turkey.
    Because of Balkanite settlers Turks have European genetic influence (it's the strongest in East Thrace where islamized Balkanites settled in largest number, and falls toward the east).
    On the video is Gallipoli Serb, the tittle is 'We are not Greeks we are Gallipoli Serbs'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    On the video is Gallipoli Serb, the tittle is 'We are not Greeks we are Gallipoli Serbs'

    That's insane. According to wikipedia, 165k Serbs live in Turkey. I guess most Serbs live in Gallipoli.

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