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    Quote Originally Posted by pulstar View Post
    Didn't try that, but I don't know if those are good labels (rich vs poor), its just a hunch feeling.

    I've got the data from Kaggle.

    Then I used scikit-learns standard scaler and k-means.

    But yeah, I know what you want, you want to see where each country is on a scatter plot. I might make it later on if I figure out how Vahaduo works.
    You can chose the labels or reference names you like, which I said was only an example.

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    Portugal

    Density (P/Km˛) - 111

    Greece

    Density (P/Km˛) - 81




    Portugal

    Migrants (net) -6,000

    Greece

    Migrants (net) -16,000




    Portugal

    Under-five mortality rate - 3.7/per 1.000 live births

    Greece

    Under-five mortality rate - 3.8/per 1.000 live births




    Portugal

    GDP Per Capita - $24590.40

    Greece

    GDP Per Capita - $24024.20




    Portugal

    Literacy rate for 2018 was 96.14%

    Greece

    Literacy rate for 2018 was 97.94%




    Portugal

    Phones - 1,260.28 per 1,000 people (2007)

    Greece

    Phones - 1,120.56 per 1,000 people (2007)




    Portugal

    Arable land (% of land area) - 10.7%

    Greece

    Arable land (% of land area) - 16.6%




    Portugal

    Fertility Rate - 1.29

    Greece

    Fertility Rate - 1.30




    Portugal

    Crude death rate - 11

    Greece

    Crude death rate - 11




    Portugal

    GDP - 237.69 USD Billion

    Greece

    GDP - 209.85 USD Billion




    Portugal

    Unemployment rate - 5.6%

    Greece

    Unemployment rate - 18.30%


    I am failing to understand how Portugal is not on the second group in the first map and Greece is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    [B]Portugal


    I am failing to understand how Portugal is not on the second group in the first map and Greece is.
    Not only you, in the first map Portugal should be in blue colour, simply because could be near Greece, but slighty better.

    And in the second one, Italy and Spain should be in the same group, whatever is it, but in the same group, because Italy has slighty better "indicators" in data than Spain.

    But maybe data in the Pulstar sources were different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulstar View Post
    Didn't try that, but I don't know if those are good labels (rich vs poor), its just a hunch feeling.

    I've got the data from Kaggle.

    Then I used scikit-learns standard scaler and k-means.

    But yeah, I know what you want, you want to see where each country is on a scatter plot. I might make it later on if I figure out how Vahaduo works.
    k-means sucks.
    run it a again with that same data, the results will be different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
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    I'm going to double check it, perhaps there was some NaN value for Portugal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    k-means sucks.
    run it a again with that same data, the results will be different.
    That's why I used kmeans++

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Didn't notice that, but to be honest it fits better with Georgia/Cyprus/Armenia anyway. But I think it should be blue here

    Actually I think the 3 groups version is probably the most accurate
    Blue: Western Europe
    Yellow: Western/Civilized but less fortunate economically
    Red: Balkaniggas and Slavomongols
    That's me B0$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Not only you, in the first map Portugal should be in blue colour, simply because could be near Greece, but slighty better.

    And in the second one, Italy and Spain should be in the same group, whatever is it, but in the same group, because Italy has slighty better "indicators" in data than Spain.

    But maybe data in the Pulstar sources were different.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    I am failing to understand how Portugal is not on the second group in the first map and Greece is.
    I noticed something regarding this. Some data has NaN (not a number) values meaning that the cells in CSV file were left blank for some countries. Now, I did check Portugal and it had all values, but some of the other countries didn't.
    In order to solve this I previously (in my original calculation) used the median values from the columns to fill the NaN values for the countries where its missing (in my previous calculation), but now I tried using mean values. Portugal moves to second group (Western European one). I also added three Baltic countries, but with median method Portugal is still somehow closer to Eastern Europe on k=2.

    If you want to download the CSV file and check it on your own, here's the link. I can also send you my jupyter notebook if you're interested, just let me know.

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