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    Default Gypsy from Latvia - GEDmatch results

    She is from Ventspils, Latvia living in England.

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    Eurogenes K13:

    North_Atlantic 12.70 Pct
    Baltic 11.18 Pct

    West_Med 10.80 Pct
    West_Asian 14.17 Pct
    East_Med 20.21 Pct
    Red_Sea 2.82 Pct
    South_Asian 24.32 Pct
    East_Asian 1.99 Pct
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.60 Pct
    Oceanian 0.76 Pct
    Northeast_African 0.19 Pct
    Sub-Saharan 0.26 Pct

    Distance to: Renata
    5.55875885 Balkan_Gypsy
    5.99679081 Romani
    23.68396504 Turk_Edirne
    24.36380923 Turk_Kardzhali-West
    24.99135250 Turk_Kazanlik
    25.05306368 Turk_Komotini
    25.31949447 Turk_Burgas
    25.64171016 Turk_Dobrich
    25.94582047 Turk_Targovishte
    26.05374174 Bulgarian_Thrace

    Target: Renata
    Distance: 3.0158% / 3.01579924 | ADC: 0.25x
    87.2 Balkan_Gypsy
    4.6 Swedish
    3.2 Pomak_Plovdiv
    3.0 Yemenite_Jewish
    1.0 Austroasiatic_Ho
    1.0 Bulgarian_Southwest


    Eurogenes K15:

    North_Sea 4.62 Pct
    Atlantic 13.77 Pct
    Baltic 7.76 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 4.73 Pct

    West_Med 6.76 Pct
    West_Asian 13.42 Pct
    East_Med 17.30 Pct
    Red_Sea 3.37 Pct
    South_Asian 25.15 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 1.90 Pct
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.37 Pct
    Oceanian 0.60 Pct
    Northeast_African 0.17 Pct
    Sub-Saharan 0.09 Pct


    Dodecad K12b:

    Population
    Gedrosia 13.06 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African 0.18 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 0.40 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 13.76 Pct
    North_European 17.48 Pct
    South_Asian 21.02 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 7.65 Pct
    East_Asian 1.42 Pct
    Caucasus 25.03 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Renata
    4.61259146 Balkan_Gypsy
    23.00186297 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
    23.28949978 Turk_Northwest
    23.34120177 Tajik_Herat
    23.82719455 Turkmen_Iran
    23.90576081 Iran_Khorasan
    24.11892618 Turk_Southwest
    24.31739501 Tajik_Tajikistan
    24.35457862 Parsi_India
    24.37970878 Turk_West_BlackSea

    Target: Renata
    Distance: 2.6349% / 2.63487053 | ADC: 0.25x
    92.4 Balkan_Gypsy
    6.2 Mordovian
    1.2 Yemen_Jews
    0.2 Pulliyar


    HarappaWorld:

    S-Indian 20.25 Pct
    Baloch 14.69 Pct
    Caucasian 23.04 Pct
    NE-Euro 18.70 Pct
    SE-Asian 1.03 Pct
    Siberian -
    NE-Asian 0.76 Pct
    Papuan 0.49 Pct
    American 0.60 Pct
    Beringian -
    Mediterranean 12.48 Pct
    SW-Asian 7.96 Pct
    San -
    E-African -
    Pygmy -
    W-African -

    Distance to: Renata
    6.55371650 romanian-b
    24.99370121 pashtun
    25.24006735 turkmen
    26.06546182 tajik
    26.12552775 turk-aydin
    26.89878622 bene-israel-jew
    27.31286693 ashkenazi
    27.44413416 singapore-indian-d
    27.81406479 ashkenazy-jew
    29.69926767 romanian-a

    Target: Renata
    Distance: 1.7321% / 1.73205762 | ADC: 0.25x
    73.6 romanian-b
    15.0 singapore-indian-d
    3.2 qatari
    3.2 romanian-a
    3.0 urkarah
    2.0 pashtun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    She is from Ventspils, Latvia living in England.

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    Nice.

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    Interesting. In Latvia, generally there's little to no mixing between locals and Gypsies, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris596 View Post
    Interesting. In Latvia, generally there's little to no mixing between locals and Gypsies, right?
    Well, the Gypsy community over there is much smaller than in Balkan countries percentage-wise and I believe they're a bit more North European on average than their Balkan counterparts. But as always, Gypsies rarely mix with non-Gypsies. I'd probably mix with her and Indo-Europeanize her ancestry a little more She is not bad looking.

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    Her European admix is probably percentually the same as of the Balkan Gypsies, but that amixture is from a more northern source hence the higher North Atlantic and Baltic DNA compared to the population referrence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I'd probably mix with her and Indo-Europeanize her ancestry a little more She is not bad looking.
    We have the same taste

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    We have the same taste
    Well, I generally prefer light women, not too much darker than me (although not extremely pale either) but that being said there are good looking individuals in dark countries/nations too. For a Gypsy she is sure above the average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    Her European admix is probably percentually the same as of the Balkan Gypsies, but that amixture is from a more northern source hence the higher North Atlantic and Baltic DNA compared to the population referrence.
    My Balkan_Gypsy average (based on the kits you found):

    Atlantic_Med 14.71 (Renata - 13.76)
    North_European 13.79 (Renata - 17.48)

    HarappaWorld's Roma_Romania:

    NE-Euro 14.02 (Renata - 18.70)
    Mediterranean 14.23 (Renata - 12.48)

    Euro K13 Balkan_Gypsy (again, based on the samples you found):

    North_Atlantic 9.73 (Renata - 12.70)
    Baltic 9.53 (Renata - 11.18)
    West_Med 12.55 (Renata - 10.80)

    Overall, she is clearly more North European, although the different isn't huge. She's far from being half Latvian or what one would except to see in Baltic/NE European Gypsies. Perhaps there are such "whitewashed" communities in Finland or Sweden, I've never seen such individuals myself.
    Last edited by Leto; 09-22-2020 at 05:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    She is from Ventspils



    Eurogenes K13:

    North_Atlantic 12.70 Pct
    Baltic 11.18 Pct

    West_Med 10.80 Pct
    West_Asian 14.17 Pct
    East_Med 20.21 Pct
    Red_Sea 2.82 Pct
    South_Asian 24.32 Pct
    East_Asian 1.99 Pct
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.60 Pct
    Oceanian 0.76 Pct
    Northeast_African 0.19 Pct
    Sub-Saharan 0.26 Pct
    Similar to the ones from R. Moldova

    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    10.85 8.12 13.85 16.55 18.75 2.37 25.19 1.34 1.65 0.21 0.52 0.58 0
    11.57 12.62 11.32 15.32 17.97 2.29 23.98 0 2.33 0 1.46 1.12 0

    Those from Romania (Wallachia region) are also not that far off.

    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    5.66 14.80 12.28 18.02 16.44 3.01 25.06 2.61 0.44 0 1.38 0.09 0.19
    15.84 12.72 15.22 14.37 15.69 2.70 20.18 0.98 0 0 1.65 0.44 0.20
    11.90 9.19 10.45 14.64 22.38 1.50 24.29 1.34 2.01 0.42 0.96 0.47 0.45
    12.98 9.32 15.56 17.09 20.36 2.48 19.03 0 0.86 0.44 1.17 0.70 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Similar to the ones from R. Moldova

    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    10.85 8.12 13.85 16.55 18.75 2.37 25.19 1.34 1.65 0.21 0.52 0.58 0
    11.57 12.62 11.32 15.32 17.97 2.29 23.98 0 2.33 0 1.46 1.12 0

    Those from Romania (Wallachia region) are also not that far off.

    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    5.66 14.80 12.28 18.02 16.44 3.01 25.06 2.61 0.44 0 1.38 0.09 0.19
    15.84 12.72 15.22 14.37 15.69 2.70 20.18 0.98 0 0 1.65 0.44 0.20
    11.90 9.19 10.45 14.64 22.38 1.50 24.29 1.34 2.01 0.42 0.96 0.47 0.45
    12.98 9.32 15.56 17.09 20.36 2.48 19.03 0 0.86 0.44 1.17 0.70 0
    A Gypsy from Bulgaria
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6901324
    Notably less North European than the OP.

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