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    Default Macedonian President requests church autocephaly from Ecumenical Patriarch

    https://www.ekathimerini.com/257212/...ical-patriarch

    North Macedonia requests church autocephaly from Ecumenical Patriarch

    North Macedonia’s President Stevo Pendarovski has appealed to the global seat of Orthodoxy in Istanbul to recognize the independence of his country’s Orthodox Church, Greek state-run news agency ANA-MPA reported on Monday.

    “I turn to you, on behalf of a large portion of my fellow citizens, who identify themselves as Orthodox Christians and whose only wish and need is to reconcile with their close ones and focus on a common future, coexistence and true freedom,” Pendarovski told Vartholomeos in a letter quoted by North Macedonia’s MIA news agency.

    “Let me ask Your Holiness to esteem the call of our people and our Church to use Your prerogative and finally give our citizens of the Orthodox Christian faith the opportunity to be equal with the other Orthodox Christians across the globe,” he added.

    He said that the Ecumenical Patriarchate “is an example of how one can remain consistent in [their] values, but at the same time face the current challenges dynamically.”

    The Orthodox Church of North Macedonia unilaterally declared its ecclesiastical independence from Serbia in 1967, but Serbia’s Church has blocked its recognition.

    The Ecumenical Patriarchate has been examining a request to recognize the breakaway Church since May 2018.

    In October 2018, the Patriarchate granted self-rule to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

    He presented a decree of independence to the head of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine in January 2019.

    The move was widely condemned by the Russian Church, which has since severed ties with the Ecumenical Patriarchate.


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    https://www.urdupoint.com/en/world/b...i-1035859.html

    Belgrade Hopes Patriarch Of Constantinople Will Deny Autocephaly For Macedonian Church

    BELGRADE (UrduPoint News / Sputnik - 21st September, 2020) Serbian Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic expressed hope on Monday that Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople would refuse to support the initiative of the North Macedonian authorities regarding the autocephaly of the breakaway Macedonian Orthodox Church (MOC).

    On Sunday, North Macedonian President Stevo Pendarovski asked the Patriarch of Constantinople to recognize the MOC, which unilaterally declared its autocephaly and independence from the Serbian Orthodox Church (SOC) in 1967. The SOC, other local orthodox churches and the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople did not recognize the move. The MOC is supported by the Macedonian government and is the only official orthodox community recognized by the country's authorities.

    "We want an agreement to be reached, but the rules of the Orthodox Church must be observed. We expect that the Patriarch of Constantinople will take the same position as when he opposed the creation of the so-called Montenegrin Orthodox Church," Dacic told reporters.

    In June 2019, Patriarch Bartholomew warned in a letter the Montenegrin president against supporting the non-canonical Montenegrin Orthodox Church and taking any steps to the detriment of the SOC, recalling that he warned the authorities of Montenegro about the inadmissibility of such actions back in 2000.

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    Looks like Orthodoxy in not based on Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaArgus1 View Post
    Looks like Orthodoxy in not based on Bible.
    There is no way the Thessalonians and Macedonia be re written to appease some Demons masquerading as Christians..

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    There is no way the Thessalonians and Macedonia be re written to appease some Demons masquerading as Christians..
    The Orthodoxy switched in extreme nationalism instead of obeying the words of the god. The Greek church deals with the Macedonian issue extremely ungodly.

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    Here is the Osogovo Monastery, in which the frescoes of Tsar Lazar and Tsar Uroš are painted. At least that was the case until this year. As our reader reports from the scene, the frescoes of the Serbian rulers have been altered, that is, someone recently changed the names of these frescoes without any problems, renaming them into Tsar Vladimir and John the Merciful!

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    All in accordance with the regulations of the Bulgarian Exarchate from 1870. The intention of the so-called Macedonian Orthodox Church to distance itself from the Serbian Orthodox Church seems to be entering a new phase.

    So far, I have seen this only in Greece (Aegean Macedonia), where the Greeks changed the frescoes that were written in the Old Slavic (Church Slavic) language into Greek. We know the turbulent history with Constantinople that was led by our church until the First World War, we know about the Hellenization of all Slavs in Greece, but i did not hope to experience this from the Macedonians. Yes, Macedonians are erasing Serbs. That's how far we've come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castor View Post
    Here is the Osogovo Monastery, in which the frescoes of Tsar Lazar and Tsar Uroš are painted. At least that was the case until this year. As our reader reports from the scene, the frescoes of the Serbian rulers have been altered, that is, someone recently changed the names of these frescoes without any problems, renaming them into Tsar Vladimir and John the Merciful!

    BEFORE


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    All in accordance with the regulations of the Bulgarian Exarchate from 1870. The intention of the so-called Macedonian Orthodox Church to distance itself from the Serbian Orthodox Church seems to be entering a new phase.

    So far, I have seen this only in Greece (Aegean Macedonia), where the Greeks changed the frescoes that were written in the Old Slavic (Church Slavic) language into Greek. We know the turbulent history with Constantinople that was led by our church until the First World War, we know about the Hellenization of all Slavs in Greece, but i did not hope to experience this from the Macedonians. Yes, Macedonians are erasing Serbs. That's how far we've come.
    This is a proof that Orthodoxy is not based on the Bible but on political interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaArgus1 View Post
    This is a proof that Orthodoxy is not based on the Bible but on political interests.
    That is a proof that Macedonians continue to erase Serbian indentity in Macedonia as they did that during Communist regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castor View Post
    That is a proof that Macedonians continue to erase Serbian indentity in Macedonia as they did that during Communist regime.
    Right we will erase everything foreign which implies negation of our national identity.

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