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    Default Analyzing Kosovo's names

    I will put a list of the cities on the map, both in Serbian and Albanian language.

    Priština - Prishtine
    Kosovska Mitrovica - Mitrovice
    Đakovica - Gjakova
    Peć - Peja
    Prizren - Prizren
    Mališevo - Malisheve
    Uroševac - Ferizaj
    Obilić - Skenderbeg (Obilić was a Serbian medieval knight, and all the Albanians did was "opposite" the name to the Albanian lord Skenderbeg, who was/controlled by the Ottoman Turks)

    If you notice, the Albanian-language version of the cities are just "copies" of the Serbian version. But one could argue that Serbs copied the Albanian names.

    For that reason, I will now connect some of those city names to city names in Serbia (using this map: http://i.infoplease.com/images/myugo.gif)

    Kosovska Mitrovica - Sremska Mitrovica
    Đakovica - Rakovica
    Prizren - Ozren
    Uroševac - Obrenovac
    Mališevo - Valjevo

    Now lets take a map of Albania, and try to "connect" the city names (using this map: https://cdn.britannica.com/03/6203-0...es-locator.jpg)

    Tirana
    Berat
    Elbasan
    Kukes
    Shkodra
    Gjirokastra

    All of these names are inconsistent with Kosovo city names, as they end in random vowel/consonant arrangements.

    Most important of all, what does "Kosovo" mean in Albanian?


    In Serbian, "crni kos" is the name of a blackbird... which is why they named Kosovo field... Kosovo Polje, because it's the "Field of the Blackbird."

    How do you say blackbird in Albanian? According to various online translators, it's mulizezë or mëllenjë. "Bird" itself is zog or shpesë. These do NOT sound anything like Kosovo. Even the Albanian name of Kosovo is Kosova or Kosovë. Clearly, they claim it's their land... but why don't they have any historical names for it? Some might argue it's "Dardania" but Dardania just refers to a much larger Balkan region, which is for another topic/discussion.

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    How to translate Pristina (capital of Kosovo) in Serbian and Albanian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2garin View Post
    How to translate Pristina in Serbian and Albanian?
    Priština's name in Serbian and Albanian language is written in Wikipedia.

    Serbian: Priština

    Albanian: Prishtinë

    English: Prishtina

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    Okay, but what does this name mean in Serbian and Albanian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2garin View Post
    How to translate Pristina (capital of Kosovo) in Serbian and Albanian?
    In Serbian (I remember the old words of my grandfather and grandmother) there is a word that is spelled as ПРИШ, I don't know exactly what it means, but I know that when someone says e.g: ''Их, ПРИШ га убила'', Which would mean on English: "Oh, PRIS(Š) killed him'', means that PRIS(Š) is something that inflicts death and punishment.
    The rest of the word "INA" means there is a lot of that (PRIS(Š)).
    I don't know if it has any meaning in Albanian.

    PS. I have heard it countless times from my grandparents. I don't know the origin, and the exact value, but there is something about it.
    Kosova është zemra e Serbi

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2garin View Post
    How to translate Pristina (capital of Kosovo) in Serbian and Albanian?
    i've heard it comes from this word
    https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&...B0%D1%82%D0%B8

    and it means "the place where the water bursts from a well".

    prištati instead of prštati could be a dialectal or archaic version.

    that's where the root "prišt" comes from, and -ina can mean either something large, or a place. probably the latter in this case.

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    Since when do names signal someones possesion? We all know names of cities were always named by the higher dominion, therefore in middle age Serbian kingdom was prevalent, it's normal the names are in Serbian. There are also milions of Johns in USA that are Black, that doesn't mean they are British.

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    Kosovo is Slavic toponyme. It means nothing on Albanian.


    Localities in Poland (Polish: Kosowo)

    Kosovo (English) - a village, Naklovsky district of the Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship.
    Kosovo (English) - a village, Swiecky County of the Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship.
    Kosovo (English) - village, Tucholsky district of the Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship.
    Kosovo (English) - village, Kartuzsky district of the Pomeranian Voivodeship.
    Kosovo (English) - a village, Gniezne County, Greater Poland Voivodeship.
    Kosovo (English) - village, Gostyn County, Greater Poland Voivodeship.

    Localities in Russia

    Kosovo is a village in the Mezhdurechensky district of the Vologda region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Dzerzhinsky District of the Kaluga Region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Medynsky district of the Kaluga region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Klin District of the Moscow Region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Shakhovsky district of the Moscow region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Batetsky District of the Novgorod Region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Velikie Luki district of the Pskov region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Molokovsky district of the Tver region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Danilovsky District of the Yaroslavl Region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaestro View Post
    Since when do names signal someones possesion? We all know names of cities were always named by the higher dominion, therefore in middle age Serbian kingdom was prevalent, it's normal the names are in Serbian. There are also milions of Johns in USA that are Black, that doesn't mean they are British.
    If so as you say, then why don't they change the names of the cities into their own "ancient Illyrian" names, but they still hold Serbian names? I'll tell you why, because they don't have their own names, look how they turned the name Priština into Prishtinë, the Ottomans did the similar thing, when they came to a land that was not historicaly and culturally theirs, they took Balkan countries' names of cities and only slightly modified them to fit in with the other Turkish cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castor View Post
    If so as you say, then why don't they change the names of the cities into their own "ancient Illyrian" names, but they still hold Serbian names? I'll tell you why, because they don't have their own names, look how they turned the name Priština into Prishtinë, the Ottomans did the similar thing, when they came to a land that was not historicaly and culturally theirs, they took Balkan countries' names of cities and only slightly modified them to fit in with the other Turkish cities.
    It's sad.

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