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    ^ more so in sth Shqiperia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Kosovo is Slavic toponyme. It means nothing on Albanian.


    Localities in Poland (Polish: Kosowo)

    Kosovo (English) - a village, Naklovsky district of the Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship.
    Kosovo (English) - a village, Swiecky County of the Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship.
    Kosovo (English) - village, Tucholsky district of the Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship.
    Kosovo (English) - village, Kartuzsky district of the Pomeranian Voivodeship.
    Kosovo (English) - a village, Gniezne County, Greater Poland Voivodeship.
    Kosovo (English) - village, Gostyn County, Greater Poland Voivodeship.

    Localities in Russia

    Kosovo is a village in the Mezhdurechensky district of the Vologda region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Dzerzhinsky District of the Kaluga Region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Medynsky district of the Kaluga region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Klin District of the Moscow Region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Shakhovsky district of the Moscow region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Batetsky District of the Novgorod Region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Velikie Luki district of the Pskov region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Molokovsky district of the Tver region.
    Kosovo is a village in the Danilovsky District of the Yaroslavl Region.
    KOS is a name for blackbird in many Slavic languages, includes Czech.
    There are several villages in our country named after KOS but as KOSOV not KOSOVO.
    Czech is Slavic language , as well as Serbian, but village names have not endings -OVO, here, but mainly -OV, -OVICE or -ICE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castor View Post
    I will put a list of the cities on the map, both in Serbian and Albanian language.

    Priština - Prishtine
    Kosovska Mitrovica - Mitrovice
    Đakovica - Gjakova
    Peć - Peja
    Prizren - Prizren
    Mališevo - Malisheve
    Uroševac - Ferizaj
    Obilić - Skenderbeg (Obilić was a Serbian medieval knight, and all the Albanians did was "opposite" the name to the Albanian lord Skenderbeg, who was/controlled by the Ottoman Turks)

    If you notice, the Albanian-language version of the cities are just "copies" of the Serbian version. But one could argue that Serbs copied the Albanian names.

    For that reason, I will now connect some of those city names to city names in Serbia (using this map: http://i.infoplease.com/images/myugo.gif)

    Kosovska Mitrovica - Sremska Mitrovica
    Đakovica - Rakovica
    Prizren - Ozren
    Uroševac - Obrenovac
    Mališevo - Valjevo

    Now lets take a map of Albania, and try to "connect" the city names (using this map: https://cdn.britannica.com/03/6203-0...es-locator.jpg)

    Tirana
    Berat
    Elbasan
    Kukes
    Shkodra
    Gjirokastra

    All of these names are inconsistent with Kosovo city names, as they end in random vowel/consonant arrangements.

    Most important of all, what does "Kosovo" mean in Albanian?


    In Serbian, "crni kos" is the name of a blackbird... which is why they named Kosovo field... Kosovo Polje, because it's the "Field of the Blackbird."

    How do you say blackbird in Albanian? According to various online translators, it's mulizezë or mëllenjë. "Bird" itself is zog or shpesë. These do NOT sound anything like Kosovo. Even the Albanian name of Kosovo is Kosova or Kosovë. Clearly, they claim it's their land... but why don't they have any historical names for it? Some might argue it's "Dardania" but Dardania just refers to a much larger Balkan region, which is for another topic/discussion.
    No, you're the ones who changed names.

    You changed the name to Metohija for Western Kosovo when the oldest name is Dukagjin or Plains of Dukagjin which is an Albanian name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metohija

    The oldest name for the region is Dukagjin or Dukagjini plain (Alb: 'Rrafshi i Dukagjinit') and the region was called Sanjak of Dukagjin in the 15th-16th century. According to historian Jahja Drançolli, the name 'Metohija' does not appear as a geographic term in the medieval period.[2]

    Prizren is not a Slavic name and is Albanian possibly too. Same thing for Prishtina , that one is up for debate, some consider it Albanian. Ulpiana -> Lipjan, this one is Albanian too. Vushtrri from Vicana or Vicianum is proto-Albanian too possibly.

    Ferizaj is the real name of the town of modern Ferizaj, you changed that one to Urosevac . You cannot compare Albania because in Kosovo was more of a mixture of Albanian and Slavic as such the toponyms are too. The names you listed for Albania are Slavic too such as Berat from Belgrade.



    Naissus -> Nish , Scupi -> Shkup are also Proto-Albanian.



    Lumbard for the river in Peja that one is Albanian too. Peja was an Albanian town, same thing for Prishtina and Prizen, Shkup etc




    Yes, really sad




    Kosovo/Kosova is for the field in Eastern Kosovo, and is Slavic, and which was later used to refer to entire territory by Albanians and Ottomans and was interchangably used with Dardania . Adds more to the fact it is Albanian because you added the name 'Metohija' which did not even exist



    Dushkaja this one is Albanian too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dushkaja




    The territory of Dardania or Kosova was ruled by Bulgarians also, as such you'll find Slavic toponyms , you'll find even villages with Slavic names inhabited by Albanians even in the medieval period so your thread is nonsensical.

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    Has region also known as Shulla in Kosovo, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Has_(region) this one is an Albanian toponym too.


    Opoja is Slavic but it was inhabited by Albanians. You'll find a mixture of Slavic and Albanian.

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    Yes, nice try, Chetnik

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    Dakovica is not changed. Dakovica -> Gjakova developed as a result of Albanian speakers using the placename over a long period of time. (Or the second theory is that the town had two names and it could be from Albanian 'Gjak'). And that was an Albanian town too in the 16th century. In the 15th century it was a village and was surrounded by Albanian villages and did in fact have inhabitants with some Albanian names. Understand first of how phonetic laws work then come and talk. A Slavic placename isn't decisive in determining if the population is Slavic nor do names. In some cases the same places would have one Albanian and one Slavic.
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    Bardhaniq - https://mapcarta.com/14006016 , this one is Albanian from the word 'Bardh' meaning white and the Slavic suffix -iq has been added . This is an old Albanian village .

    Lekiq - https://mapcarta.com/N3607196900 , this one also Albanian from the Albanian name 'Lek' and again with Slavic suffix -iq


    Both of these are old


    Medieval toponyms should also be compared and not modern.

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    https://mapcarta.com/13924448 - Kodralija , also Albanian from the word 'Koder / Kodra '

    https://mapcarta.com/13931310 - Beci , also Albanian

    https://mapcarta.com/13914152 - Vraniq , also Albanian from the word 'Vra / Vran'

    https://mapcarta.com/N4715057570 - Palabardhe , also Albanian

    https://mapcarta.com/13922750 - Lumbardh , also Albanian , meaning 'White river'

    These are all old

    I could go on but why waste my time

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    https://mapcarta.com/N3419840036 - Guri I Kuq , meaning 'Red Stone' - ALSO ALBANIAN and old

    https://mapcarta.com/N4000356432 - Ujemire , meaning 'Good Water' - Also Albanian and old .

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    UjeMIRe, meaning 'Good Water' - Also Albanian and old

    An example of the composite language of Shqiptarisht (Serbian, Armenian, Greek, Turkish, Arabic, Norman, Baltic etc….)

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