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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan559 View Post
    Yes, before 1945 no one knew about Macedonia and Macedonians. What nonsense

    https://imgur.com/a/GZkpKAc
    Everyone knew Macedonia as Greece including the Ottomans.

    It was Bulgaria who started to cultivate this new ethnicity because they couldn’t get a piece of Macedonia otherwise. Tito found this very convenient later.

    They thought if they could gather the different ethnic groups under one new regional designation it would be easier for Bulgaria to annex Macedonia to Bulgaria. After all Bulgaria too has a Macedonian province.

    Now how is it the names Macedonians/Macedonia don't appear even a single one time in any of those 500 folksongs of your country collected and published by the Miladinov brothers in 1861?

    When Macedonia was liberated from the Turks it has always been called Macedoniia by the Greeks. It was called the "General Dictatorship of Macedonia" and then Macedonia from the Start. where as the part of
    Western Bulgaria annexed by Serbia was always called Southern Serbia never Macedonia.

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    Lol, what a bullshit, look at these maps, Macedonia is separate from Greece. And these maps are published by americans, hungarians, germans, british, ottomans. And how is Macedonia Greek, when 120 years ago, greek speakers were less than 15%? And majority in the region were slavic speakers, same with us. Macedonia land of glory and legends, and never greek!!!!

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    I have no words to express how much I despise Bulgarians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan559 View Post
    Lol, what a bullshit, look at these maps, Macedonia is separate from Greece. And these maps are published by americans, hungarians, germans, british, ottomans. And how is Macedonia Greek, when 120 years ago, greek speakers were less than 15%? And majority in the region were slavic speakers, same with us. Macedonia land of glory and legends, and never greek!!!!
    Greece is artificial state which never existed before.

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    The truth is painful for the Greeks and the Bulgarians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan559 View Post
    Yes, before 1945 no one knew about Macedonia and Macedonians. What nonsense

    https://imgur.com/a/GZkpKAc
    This was conditioned by the fact that there was no Serbian propaganda, church and school in this area at that time. Some opted for Bulgarians because simply they weren't Greeks, and others again for Greeks because they weren't Bulgarians. It was mostly a political, not a national commitment. At that time, one could only dream that these areas would belong to Serbia sometime in the future, because Serbia was far away, and since it was weakened, it seemed disinterested.

    Many, since they were neither Bulgarians nor Greeks, disappointed in both of them, and not receiving the necessary moral or even less material help from Serbia, wandered to the extreme, and became Macedonians. Of course, they were supported and sometimes rewarded by Russian or Austro-Hungarian agents for this commitment. Also, their commitment to Macedonia did not initially have any national characteristics. This was an exclusively political and regional commitment. Only later, this developed into a national concept in order to reach the scale it has today.
    We will see later that most of these Macedonians still remained what they felt they were: Serbs, Bulgarians or Greeks. Of course, despite all the problems that Serbia faced at the time, we cannot help but emphasize that, in our opinion, it is also to blame for everything that happened later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan559 View Post
    Lol, what a bullshit, look at these maps, Macedonia is separate from Greece. And these maps are published by americans, hungarians, germans, british, ottomans. And how is Macedonia Greek, when 120 years ago, greek speakers were less than 15%? And majority in the region were slavic speakers, same with us. Macedonia land of glory and legends, and never greek!!!!
    Now it is Greek majority.
    Deal with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaArgus1 View Post
    Greece is artificial state which never existed before.
    Same as North Macedonia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaArgus1 View Post
    Greece is artificial state which never existed before.
    Graecopithicus existed since the dawn of time

    Europe was the birthplace of mankind, not Africa, scientists find
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...ientists-find/

    The oldest known Homo sapiens outside Africa was Greek
    https://www.economist.com/science-an...rica-was-greek

    Graecopithecus freybergi: Oldest Hominin Lived in Europe, not Africa

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