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    Default Bulgaria using it's EU membership to press its own nationalistic view on Macedonia - DW Germany

    https://www.dw.com/en/bulgaria-asks-...ity/a-55020781

    Pressing nationalistic views

    The claim is not new. It is the official position of the Bulgarian state since the 1950s and, as a result, the historical misunderstandings between the two neighbors often boiled over in the political arena. As a member of the European Union, Bulgaria sees an advantage and aims to use it.

    Ulf Brunnbauer, chair of history of Southeast and Eastern Europe at the University of Regensburg, said the memorandum is Bulgaria's way of "pressing its own nationalistic view on the history and culture of another country and its people."

    "It would be similar to Germany telling the Austrians that they are actually Germans, or Denmark calling the Norwegians an anomaly because they used to be part of their empire and their standard language developed later than Danish," Brunnbauer told DW.

    The memorandum caused consternation in North Macedonia and condemnation in parts of the Bulgarian academia as well.

    Macedonian Deputy Prime Minister Nikola Dimitrov said, "Language is not subject to recognition or nonrecognition because in the 21st century, especially in Europe, the right to self-determination and self-expression cannot be denied."

    Bulgarian sociologist Ivaylo Ditchev wrote for DW that the primary "accusation" made in the Bulgarian memo is the fact that "North Macedonia exists at all."

    "And if that new nation persistently refuses to abolish itself — Bulgaria considers that an act of aggression," Ditchev wrote.

    Occupation or liberation?

    During the Second World War, the Kingdom of Bulgaria was part of the Axis powers and occupied the territory of what is today North Macedonia. Macedonian history considers this period "Bulgarian fascist occupation." But Bulgaria denies that assertion and claims that its forces liberated what it considers its brethren in the west. In a declaration adopted by the parliament last year, Sofia told Skopje to stop using the term "fascist occupation" in reference to Bulgaria in its history books and toremove all such mention on the World War II monuments in the country.

    Disagreements like this were supposed to be solved by a commission formed after the signing of a bilateral friendship agreement in 2017.

    A group of historians and education experts from both countries started working on the long list of divisive issues but stopped last year. The official reason was because of the elections in North Macedonia and later the coronavirus pandemic, unofficially, there were insurmountable disagreements. Now the Bulgarian government insists that the commission continue its work and show results or North Macedonia's path towards the EU would be stopped before it can begin in earnest.

    No place for bilateral issues

    While the EU has so far been quiet on the issue, Germany, as the current holder of the rotating European Council presidency, called on both countries to resolve outstanding problems in the history commission. German Ambassador in North Macedonia Anke Holstein rejected Bulgaria's attempt to include the bilateral issues in the EU negotiations framework.

    "Bilateral problems should be solved bilaterally," Holstein told Radio Free Europe.

    But, according to Dragi Gjorgiev, president of the Macedonian team of experts in the Macedonian-Bulgarian commission, that won't be an easy task.

    "The Bulgarian memorandum, which denies the modern Macedonian language and identity, is not helpful for the commission's success," Gjorgiev told DW.

    While Ditchev, and other political analysts on both sides of the border think the memorandum might be a PR-stunt of Boyko Borisov's Bulgarian government to turn the attention of the public opinion after months of anti-corruption protests in the country, others disagree.

    "Protests in Sofia have nothing to do with this," Andrey Kovatchev member of the European Parliament from Bulgaria's governing conservative GERB party, wrote in an op-ed for DW Macedonian on Saturday. The government in Sofia would not change its position, Kovatchev said, adding that North Macedonia will not be allowed to start the EU accession negotiations unless it accepts Bulgaria's demands.

    "Do not hope! You will never find another traitor like Georgi Dimitrov [the first communist leader of Bulgaria 1946-1949, who recognized the existence of a separate Macedonian nation and Macedonian language] in Bulgaria to get this thing done for you.," he said.

    German historian Brunnbauer, on the other hand, called on Brussels and "especially Berlin" to put pressure on the Bulgarian government.

    "The question of how historians or politicians in (North) Macedonia interpret the history of their nation and of their language might enrage Bulgarian nationalists (and vice versa)," he said. "But it has zero connection with the Copenhagen criteria or any other criteria an accession country needs to fulfill for membership in the EU."

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    What a cunt



    https://english.republika.mk/news/ma...ith-macedonia/

    Karakacanov says Bulgaria will act to postpone the opening of EU accession talks with Macedonia

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    Looks like Macedonia is not eligible to join EU as long as keeps its national identity including its language.

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    This should end well.

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    No, Macedonia has the right to join the EU, but only when the bilateral unresolved issues with Bulgaria are cleared, and they are of a historical nature. Nobody wants to make you northern Macedonians Bulgarians. Today, people of different ethnicities live in northern Macedonia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAGANE View Post
    No, Macedonia has the right to join the EU, but only when the bilateral unresolved issues with Bulgaria are cleared, and they are of a historical nature. Nobody wants to make you northern Macedonians Bulgarians. Today, people of different ethnicities live in northern Macedonia.
    There is no such thing as Macedonian language just like there is no such thing as Haskovian language.

    Macedonian is a tribal Greek identity that Yugoslavs appropriated to lay territorial claims on Greece and erase an important part of Bulgarian identity.

    Macedonians always spoke Greek throughout centuries just like the rest of Greek tribes.

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    Bulgars just don't learn


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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    There is no such thing as Macedonian language just like there is no such thing as Haskovian language.

    Macedonian is a tribal Greek identity that Yugoslavs appropriated to lay territorial claims on Greece and erase an important part of Bulgarian identity.

    Macedonians always spoke Greek throughout centuries just like the rest of Greek tribes.
    The Greek government has recognized the Macedonian language and nation. You can move on now and stop trolling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    The Greek government has recognized the Macedonian language and nation. You can move on now and stop trolling
    Greek marxists recognized it, that won power after it lied to the people at a Greek referendum.

    The people were not asked and current govt does not support it.

    In our view the agreement is null and void.

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    Why does Bulgaria only care about the Macedonian Slavs of the Republic? They never speak about the Macedonian Slavs assimilated and persecuted by the Greek state. Why do they never protest to the Greek state about historical issues. Were not the Macedonian Slavs of Northern Greece also Bulgarians?

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