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    Norman surnames in England are more associated with the upper and upper middle class though, in Ireland not really (probably because the Hiberno-Norman aristocracy was disposessed).

    Also it was Normans who brought the practice of surnames to England. Until the 12th Century all English had Saxon names, after c.1100 most English adopted Norman names.
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    Celto-Germanic PCA



    Individual Samples from the British Isles, Faroes, Iceland and Greenland. Insular Celtic cluster top right, Germanic cluster bottom left.


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    Any info about VK542?

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    Not much of a difference...

    353 Viking Sample:

    Target: Cole_scaled
    Distance: 1.1112% / 0.01111226
    16.2 VK2020_DNK_Sealand_VA
    13.6 VK2020_SWE_Skara_VA
    11.6 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
    11.4 England_Saxon
    9.4 FRA_MN_GRG
    6.8 RUS_Petrovka_MLBA
    6.4 Corded_Ware_DEU
    4.6 DEU_Singen_EBA
    3.6 DEU_LBK_HBS
    3.6 England_IA
    3.6 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA
    2.8 DEU_Tollense_BA
    2.8 VK2020_Faroes_EM
    2.0 HUN_Lengyel_LN
    1.0 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA
    0.6 DEU_Lech_EBA

    Target: Cole_scaled
    Distance: 2.1038% / 0.02103843 | ADC: 2x
    72.4 VK2020_NOR_North_VA
    19.0 England_IA
    8.6 Bell_Beaker_CZE

    Full Ancient Sample

    Target: Cole_scaled
    Distance: 1.1062% / 0.01106224
    16.0 VK2020_DNK_Sealand_VA
    14.6 VK2020_SWE_Skara_VA
    11.6 England_Saxon
    11.4 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
    8.6 FRA_MN_GRG
    8.4 RUS_Petrovka_MLBA
    6.0 England_IA
    5.2 DEU_LBK_HBS
    5.0 Corded_Ware_DEU
    4.6 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA
    4.4 DEU_Singen_EBA
    1.0 DEU_Tollense_BA
    1.0 HUN_Lengyel_LN
    1.0 VK2020_Faroes_EM
    0.6 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA
    0.4 DEU_Lech_EBA
    0.2 VUT_2300BP_all

    Target: Cole_scaled
    Distance: 2.1038% / 0.02103843 | ADC: 2x
    72.4 VK2020_NOR_North_VA
    19.0 England_IA
    8.6 Bell_Beaker_CZE
    AVG Ancestry: 85% NW Europe, 15% Eastern Europe
    Predominant land of modern ancestry: British Isles
    Ancestors: Alemanni, Viking (Sweden, Iceland), Corded Ware Denmark, Bronze Age Jutland Denmark, Anglo Saxon, Ostrogoth Nordic, Nordic Lombard

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    The Jutland (VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA:VK582) and Southern Norway (VK2020_NOR_South_IA:VK390) Iron Age look a good home for the Anglo-Saxons that were earlier in the data set.






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    Target: Oszkar
    Distance: 1.6745% / 0.01674467 | ADC: 1x RC
    35.4 Denmark_Langeland
    30.0 Russia_Ladoga
    20.2 Norway_Nor_Mid
    10.2 Denmark_Jutland
    4.2 Sweden_Skara


    Target: Oszkar
    Distance: 1.0682% / 0.01068217 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    32.2 Sweden_Gotland
    27.2 Norway_Nor_Mid
    24.8 Denmark_Jutland
    8.2 Faroes_Faroes
    6.4 Denmark_Langeland
    1.2 Sweden_Skara
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    Distance to: Pierrot
    0.02095852 Denmark_Jutland:VK326
    0.02262652 Sweden_Karda:VK266
    0.02294926 Denmark_Jutland:VK329
    0.02372775 Denmark_Langeland:VK363
    0.02397762 Sweden_Skara:VK403
    0.02526136 Denmark_Jutland:VK322
    0.02661671 Sweden_Oland:VK353
    0.02683698 Denmark_Funen:VK319
    0.02704287 Sweden_Oland:VK346
    0.02727966 Sweden_Oland:VK333
    0.02868994 Sweden_Oland:VK350
    0.02897408 Denmark_Jutland:VK330
    0.02916635 Norway_Nor_South:VK448
    0.02922176 Russia_Ladoga:VK218
    0.03029867 Denmark_Langeland:VK365
    0.03030354 Denmark_Funen:VK138
    0.03040293 Denmark_Sealand:VK385
    0.03081874 Sweden_Skara:VK398
    0.03087924 Iceland_Hofstadir:VK123
    0.03124070 Iceland_Hofstadir:VK101
    0.03128784 Norway_Nor_Mid:VK114
    0.03144246 Sweden_Skara:VK31
    0.03200289 Sweden_Skara:VK42
    0.03203219 Denmark_Funen:VK280
    0.03206824 Sweden_Gotland:VK450

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Norman surnames in England are more associated with the upper and upper middle class though, in Ireland not really (probably because the Hiberno-Norman aristocracy was disposessed).

    Also it was Normans who brought the practice of surnames to England. Until the 12th Century all English had Saxon names, after c.1100 most English adopted Norman names.
    The English ruling class in Ireland was known as the norman gentleman type rather than the anglo-saxon type (they did not look like Daniel Craig) so I'm not sure about hiberno-normans being 'dipossessed' in any event even going by surnames is retarded now that we have genetics. Should I be dispossessed based on my hiberno-norman surname or by genetics ?

    My top results under 2.5 :

    Distance to: Kevin_scaled
    0.02132908 VK2020_DNK_Sealand_EVA:VK70
    0.02207319 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA:VK256
    0.02327792 VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA:VK285
    0.02393924 VK2020_Faroes_EM:VK241
    0.02443763 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA:VK260

    Modern English Norman surnames are a sham. Let's compare English genetics to my genetics with a hiberno-norman name. The turkic etc... is part of my elite anatolian Draco Sentien vampire blood as explained by the late Prince Nicholas De Vere Von Drakenberg some of my genetics does not show up since I am Draco Sentien thus I have further distance , but still close enough, compared to the English:

    Target: Kevin_scaled
    Distance: 2.1788% / 0.02178796
    45.4 Anglo-Saxon
    44.0 Norway_Viking_MA
    7.0 North_Sardinia_MA

    2.0 Ottoman_Turk
    1.0 Denmark_Viking_MA
    0.6 Ghaznavid_MA


    Target: English
    Distance: 0.8602% / 0.00860223
    37.6 Anglo-Saxon
    36.6 England_Brittonic
    10.2 Norway_Viking_MA
    8.0 North_Sardinia_MA
    7.6 Medieval_Germans

    http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Andre...al600-1200.htm

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    arget: Pierrot
    Distance: 0.4740% / 0.00474037 | ADC: 0.25x
    36.0 Denmark_Jutland
    30.0 Sweden_Oland
    11.2 Denmark_Langeland
    8.6 Sweden_Gotland
    6.8 Norway_Nor_Mid
    4.2 Russia_Gnezdovo
    3.0 Sweden_Skara
    0.2 Denmark_Sealand

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