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    Apricity...where these



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    The future of Islam lies in the West btw, and Blondie jihadis will bomb Armenians too someday

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    This video was taken in a place Matagis that Baku dictator declared captured by his forces but as you can see the reality is somewhat different.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamal900 View Post
    -__- no we don't. special? well, that says quite a lot really. The fact that Bashar al-Assad had defended these people in Syria, recently recognized the Armenian genocide and so on while Armenians look at Levantine Muslims no different from other Muslims is what I'm talking about. Armenians will always look all Muslims as enemies including people like Bashar or the Egyptians. In other words, they're simply exploiting them for their own benefit.
    Cut that horseshit! Armenians do not look all Muslims as enemies. Who injected that shit in your skull???

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    Hivand en steghi martik. Manavand et uxhti gluxa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsen_ View Post
    Cut that horseshit! Armenians do not look all Muslims as enemies. Who injected that shit in your skull???
    Exactly. What sick minded people exist here. Ive had so many ME friends who were Muslims from different countries. This guy has a complex of some sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    Apricity...where these



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    The future of Islam lies in the West btw, and Blondie jihadis will bomb Armenians too someday
    Honestly, it seems that you're dissatisfied(I'm being generous here) with your physical appearance and that somehow triggers you into accusing others of wanting to be something that they aren't. One could say that it looks like you are projecting your racial insecurities on other groups while cleverly and semitically(ironic eh?) masking said insecurities under some nonsensical pan-islamic banner in the hopes that caucasoid muslims will eventually accept you as one of their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    Honestly, it seems that you're dissatisfied(I'm being generous here) with your physical appearance and that somehow triggers you into accusing others of wanting to be something that they aren't. One could say that it looks like you are projecting your racial insecurities on other groups while cleverly and semitically(ironic eh?) masking said insecurities under some nonsensical pan-islamic banner in the hopes that caucasoid muslims will eventually accept you as one of their own.
    I'm quite good looking based on how people react to me, and this isn't about my own look but more a result over decades of observation of anthropological dynamics. All the rhetoric in anthropology boards can be explained by a Simple phrase:.the Off White Dilemma

    As for pan Islamic banner being nonsensical... just wait a few years when Khorasani, Sudanese, Somalis, "Indians" Indonesians etc will be patrolling Istanbul and there won't be any Alevis or Donmeh sabbatean crypto 5th columnists around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    Armenians accumulated more wealth under Ottomans because the Muslims were focused on warrior things while Armenians, Greeks and Jews were GO BETWEENS for the Sultan and Genoa, Venice, Pisa etc. Then later for British and French Empires, and finally America... Using their corruption, mercantilism and cowardly ways and even rallying a Crusade which eventually BITE THEM IN THE ASS IN 1204.
    Corrupted cowardish ways? Then why did Greeks succeeds in the West too. Take Ioanni Kapodistria for example. He helped write the Swiss constitution. Other example is Christopher Colombos many historians claim he was originally from Chios island. It was his Byzantine maps that helped discover America. The Greek regugees that fled to the West that contrubuted to the Renessaince.

    The first banks in Egypt were crafted by Greeks, including the Bank of Alexandria, the Anglo-Egyptian bank (Sunadinos family / Συναδινός), and the General Bank of Alexandria, to cater to the needs of the Greek merchant community. Also, it was the Greek agriculturists and farmers that first systematically and with scientific planning, cultivated cotton and tobacco in Egypt.

    But Greeks succeded even as Muslims:

    Jawhar al-Siqilli (d. 992), a greek boy who became a great muslim general and founder of Cairo.

    • Known variously as al-Siqillī (“the Sicilian”), al-Rūmī (“the Greek”), al-Kātib (“the royal secretary”), al-Qā’id (“the military commander”) and al-Saqlabī (“the slave”), Jawhar was one of the most important figures in Fatimid history.

    Originally a Greek slave from Sicily, he was sent as a slave to the caliph of Tunis because of his exceptional intelligence. He gained his freedom and worked as a secretary for the caliph's son.

    • Mustapha Khaznadar was born of Greek ancestry as Georgios Kalkias Stravelakis on the island of Chios in 1817. In January 1822, the Greeks of Chios declared their independence from the Ottoman Empire, the Ottoman sultan soon sent an army of ten thousand to the island of Chios, where roughly twenty thousand Greek inhabitants were massacred and many women and children were taken into slavery.

    During the Chios massacre, Georgios's father Stephanis Kalkias Stravelakis was killed, Georgios along with his brother Yannis were captured and sold into slavery by the Ottomans. He was then taken to Smyrna and then Constantinople, where he was sold as a slave to an envoy of the Husainid Dynasty who were Beys of Tunis and originally of Greek origin. He managed to climb to the highest offices of the Tunisian state and married Princess Lalla Kalthoum in 1839 and was promoted to lieutenant-general of the army, made bey in 1840 and then president of the Grand Council from 1862 to 1878. Mustafa Khaznadar retained memories of his Greek origin and contact with his native Greece, even sending ten thousand riyals from the state treasury to pay for his two Greek nephews he was educating in Paris.

    • Leo of Tripoli: Known in Arabic as Rashīq al-Wardāmī or Ghulām Zarāfa, Leo was a Greek who was enslaved as a child and raised in the city of Tripoli on the Syrian coast. He rose to become one of the most important Muslim admirals during the 10th century. The famous historian Abū al-Ḥasan ‘Alī al-Mas‘ūdī (d. 956), who apparently met him in person, regarded him as one of the most accomplished sailors of his age.

    • Emetullah Rabia Gülnuş Sultan (d. 1715)

    She was born Eugenia Voria in the town of Rethymno, Crete in 1642, when the island was under Venetian rule, and was the daughter of a Greek Orthodox priest. She was enslaved as a child during the Ottoman conquest of Rethymno around 1646 and taken to Topkapi Palace in Constantinople, where she was brought up as a Muslim. She became one of the most powerful consorts of Sultan Mehmed IV and held the rank of Valide Sultan (“Queen-Mother”), when her sons took the throne as Mustafa II (r. 1695–1703) and Ahmed III (r. 1703–1730). She played an important role in Ottoman imperial politics and was a major patron of art and architecture, with the Yeni Valide Mosque in Istanbul being one of the most important structures she had constructed.

    • Osman Hamdi Bey (d. 1910) He was the son of Ibrahim Edhem Pasha, an Ottoman Grand Vizier of Greek origins. Osman was an Ottoman administrator, intellectual, art expert and also a prominent and pioneering painter. He was also an accomplished archaeologist who founded the Istanbul Archaeology Museum and the Istanbul Academy of Fine Arts, known today as the Mimar Sinan University of Fine Arts.

    • Kösem Sultan (d. 1651) Originally a Greek Christian with the name Anastasia, she was enslaved at a young age, converted to Islam and brought to the Ottoman palace, where she became the concubine of the sultan Ahmed I. According to a contemporary source, Cristoforo Valier, in 1616, Kösem was the most powerful of the sultan’s associates: “she can do what she wishes with the Sultan and possesses his heart absolutely, nor is anything ever denied to her.” Between 1623 and 1632, she served as regent for her son Murad IV, who took the throne as a minor. Until her assassination in 1651, as a result of court intrigue, she exercised a major influence on Ottoman politics.

    • Turgut Reis -(1485–1565) was a notorious Barbary pirate of the Ottoman Empire. He was born of Greek descent[95][96][97][98][99][10 0] in a village near Bodrum, on the Aegean coast of Asia Minor. After converting to Islam in his youth[99] he served as Admiral and privateer who also served as Bey of Algiers; Beylerbey of the Mediterranean; and first Bey, later Pasha, of Tripoli. Under his naval command the Ottoman Empire was extended across North Africa.[101] When Tugut was serving as pasha of Tripoli, he adorned and built up the city, making it one of the most impressive cities along the North African Coast.[102]

    • Ahmed Resmî Efendi (English, "Ahmed Efendi of Resmo"), also called Ahmed binbrahim Giridî("Ahmed the son of brahim the Cretan"), was a Greek-Ottoman statesman, diplomat and author of the late 18th century. He was Turkey's first ever ambassador in Berlin

    • Isma'il Ragheb was of Greek ancestry[2][3][4][5] and was born in Greece[6] on 18 August 1819 on either the island of Chios following the great Massacre[7] or Candia[8] Crete. After being kidnapped to Anatolia he was brought to Egypt as a slave by Ibrahim Pasha in 1830[9] and was converted to Islam. Immediately following his arrival, he studied at al-Maktab al-Amiri and obtained his advanced degree in 1834. He was fluent in Greek[10] and was elevated to the rank of First Lieutenant by Egypt's viceroy Muhammad Ali Pasha. His achievements include the modernisation of the budget through the inventory of revenues and expenses, the Law on Salaries, the La'eha Sa'ideyya as well as several agricultural laws.

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    Kamal is mentally ill



    I think its best to not argue with a person fundamentally changing stances in a period of days, back and forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    I'm quite good looking based on how people react to me, and this isn't about my own look but more a result over decades of observation of anthropological dynamics. All the rhetoric in anthropology boards can be explained by a Simple phrase:.the Off White Dilemma

    As for pan Islamic banner being nonsensical... just wait a few years when Khorasani, Sudanese, Somalis, "Indians" Indonesians etc will be patrolling Istanbul and there won't be any Alevis or Donmeh sabbatean crypto 5th columnists around.
    Pan islamism is a pipe dream imo. There will always be cultural and to an extent, racial barriers that this ideology must overcome. Not to mention the potential of theological schism(sunni vs shia).

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