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  • I love genealogy. The more I know the better

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  • I care more about my genetic composition and ancient ancestry than recent ancestors

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    I like both but I feel more connected to the genealogy personally. For example there are newspaper articles describing my family as riotous drunkards. You don't get that personal touch with DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    I like both but I feel more connected to the genealogy personally. For example there are newspaper articles describing my family as riotous drunkards. You don't get that personal touch with DNA.
    Wish I had articles like that. I have a memoir describing the author's mother-in-law, my great x something grandmother, as a "bitch from hell". Her daughter famously had to sit on two chairs at once.
    Spoiler!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Westbrook View Post
    Means a lot more to me than whatever "ancient DNA" is
    That is because Americans are retarded at math and science.

    Geneology is trash since humans are only mildly monogamous at best. Think about it : Americans profess to be Christians but the divorce rate is sky high and 32% of kids are not the father's real kids. Compound this with that many Americans can't trace all all their ancestry. For instance, I have a grandfather who I can't trace back to Ireland or anywhere but he claimed he was from Donegal Ireland but looked Norse or Norse-Saxon or perhaps Norse-Scottish as fuck. Lots Americans like to tell bullshit stories or have bullshit identities like "kiss me I'm Irish" meanwhile they are something else or half German etc... ancient DNA can tell you a lot. In fact the best way to model your ancestry is with Iron Age and medieval or middle age samples :

    Target: KevinG_scaled
    Distance: 1.9624% / 0.01962356
    42.8 England_IA (England Iron Age)
    32.0 ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian (Well what do you know ? My grandfather was Norse or Norse-Scots after all not 'Irish' )
    25.2 SVK_Poprad_MA (Deutschendorf kraut my grandmother was German from Alsace-Lorraine seems the Prussians pushed pure kraut there)


    Target: Kevin_scaled
    Distance: 1.7314% / 0.01731367 | R4P
    56.0 West_European:England_Saxon_I0769
    24.0 West_European:England_Saxon_I0777

    6.2 Southwest_European:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE_I10852
    5.8 Southeast_European:IND_Roopkund_B_I3405
    3.2 West_European: DEU_MA_ALH_1
    2.8 West_European: DEU_MA_NW_255
    2.0 Steppic:KAZ_Kipchak_DA23


    Distance to: Kevin_scaled
    0.02772056 West_European:England_Saxon_I0777
    0.02932190 West_European:England_Saxon_I0769
    0.02996588 West_European:England_Saxon_I0161

    0.03050188 West_European:England_Saxon_I0159
    0.03401761 West_European:England_Saxon_I0774
    0.03412486 West_European: DEU_MA_ALH_1
    0.03689108 West_European:England_Saxon_I0157
    0.03882568 West_European:England_Saxon_I0773
    0.04944617 West_European: DEU_MA_AED_106
    0.05011800 West_European: DEU_MA_ALH_3
    0.05277013 West_European: DEU_MA_STR_316
    0.05277044 West_European: DEU_MA_ALH_10
    0.05585750 West_European: DEU_MA_NW_255

    http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Ion_B...calculator.htm

    It is no all autosomal though my Y-DNA is britonnic etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skjaldemjøden View Post
    It seems like a lot of Apricians care more about their ancient forefathers, who certainly left no paper trail, than their recent ancestors within the past centuries. How important is genealogy to you? Which do you find more interesting?
    LULZ, most people voted for geneology. If you go back far enough everyone has an ancestor that was cucked some have many ancestors that were cucked and most have the average amount that were cucked :


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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    LULZ, most people voted for geneology. If you go back far enough everyone has an ancestor that was cucked some have many ancestors that were cucked and most have the average amount that were cucked :

    10 people are hardly an indicator, and this is the Genealogy sub after all. I was hoping to start a discussion more than anything. Genetic genealogy is a great tool, but it's meaningless without paper-trail.
    I appreciate the quote of Mark Twain. His daughter was married to my distant cousin.
    Spoiler!


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    Both are interesting, but I care more about my recent ancestors than WHG or EEF, just feels too abstract and distant in comparison.

    Most of my family have lived in the same places since before I can trace and were just regular campesinos for the most part, but I have found out some interesting things like how I had a Corsican great great grandfather (he must have assimilated well, because no one told me about this) and some recent Occitan ancestors.

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    I'm more than happy to stay retarded over whatever condition you seem to be suffering from
    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    That is because Americans are retarded at math and science.

    Geneology is trash since humans are only mildly monogamous at best. Think about it : Americans profess to be Christians but the divorce rate is sky high and 32% of kids are not the father's real kids. Compound this with that many Americans can't trace all all their ancestry. For instance, I have a grandfather who I can't trace back to Ireland or anywhere but he claimed he was from Donegal Ireland but looked Norse or Norse-Saxon or perhaps Norse-Scottish as fuck. Lots Americans like to tell bullshit stories or have bullshit identities like "kiss me I'm Irish" meanwhile they are something else or half German etc... ancient DNA can tell you a lot. In fact the best way to model your ancestry is with Iron Age and medieval or middle age samples :

    Target: KevinG_scaled
    Distance: 1.9624% / 0.01962356
    42.8 England_IA (England Iron Age)
    32.0 ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian (Well what do you know ? My grandfather was Norse or Norse-Scots after all not 'Irish' )
    25.2 SVK_Poprad_MA (Deutschendorf kraut my grandmother was German from Alsace-Lorraine seems the Prussians pushed pure kraut there)


    Target: Kevin_scaled
    Distance: 1.7314% / 0.01731367 | R4P
    56.0 West_European:England_Saxon_I0769
    24.0 West_European:England_Saxon_I0777

    6.2 Southwest_European:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE_I10852
    5.8 Southeast_European:IND_Roopkund_B_I3405
    3.2 West_European: DEU_MA_ALH_1
    2.8 West_European: DEU_MA_NW_255
    2.0 Steppic:KAZ_Kipchak_DA23


    Distance to: Kevin_scaled
    0.02772056 West_European:England_Saxon_I0777
    0.02932190 West_European:England_Saxon_I0769
    0.02996588 West_European:England_Saxon_I0161

    0.03050188 West_European:England_Saxon_I0159
    0.03401761 West_European:England_Saxon_I0774
    0.03412486 West_European: DEU_MA_ALH_1
    0.03689108 West_European:England_Saxon_I0157
    0.03882568 West_European:England_Saxon_I0773
    0.04944617 West_European: DEU_MA_AED_106
    0.05011800 West_European: DEU_MA_ALH_3
    0.05277013 West_European: DEU_MA_STR_316
    0.05277044 West_European: DEU_MA_ALH_10
    0.05585750 West_European: DEU_MA_NW_255

    http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Ion_B...calculator.htm

    It is no all autosomal though my Y-DNA is britonnic etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skjaldemjøden View Post
    It seems like a lot of Apricians care more about their ancient forefathers, who certainly left no paper trail, than their recent ancestors within the past centuries. How important is genealogy to you? Which do you find more interesting?
    1.) Genealogy is not a science somewhere down the line a persons' female ancestors cucked a male most likely and probably several times there were no paternity tests back then and paternity tests don't always stop it now , either.

    2.) People move around a lot more now back in ancient times people tended not to deal much outside their village and if so in a small radius outside thereof with neighboring villages so perhaps ancient ancestry is a better proxy for ancestry

    3.) History is not a science and part of the appeal of genealogy is history

    4.) Unless there is some unclaimed monetary heritage or hidden treasure from recent ancestors I don't care

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    Genealogy in a basic form is based on a paper trail. You mean genetics and it never gives answers about our ancient ancestors, only statistics.

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