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Thread: G25 small ancient references based European model (Scaled)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hapanuwa View Post
    Just for fun

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    You can add these two, i renamed them "Turk", because I don´t know if they could be considered Turkic or Anatolian purely.I guess KAZ sample is more Turkic and Ottoman mostly Turkic and some Anatolian.

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    Turk:TUR_Ottoman,0.079107,-0.0741335,0.01829,-0.0075905,-0.043085,-0.0133865,0.0029375,0.000808,-0.010124,-0.012119,-0.00885,-0.0063695,-0.0057235,-0.0088075,0.0052255,0,0.007758,0.000887,-0.0018855,-0.000375,-0.0089845,-0.0004325,-0.0096135,-0.001747,0.0003595
    Turk:KAZ_Turk,0.0774,-0.0873355,0.0254555,0.0150195,-0.025543,0.00251,0.0048175,0.0077305,-0.0172825,-0.009385,-0.019568,-0.0029225,-0.0030475,-0.010735,0.0007465,0.0057675,-0.00013,0.001457,0.003331,0.000438,-0.005116,0.0059355,-0.005608,-0.0006025,0.002874

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyoHazuki View Post
    Only recommend a slightly different name for the "Balkan" sample, like Proto-Balkan/Illyrian since this is pre-Slavic migration.
    Balkan samples are closest ancient samples to Macedonia and Macedonian Greeks modern averages.

    As far as I know, every reference could be critiziced, my little model is only a suggestion. I understand that any of those references and models with several samples cannot be perfect.

    The idea is try to calculate modern nationalities/ethnicities through using ancient samples.(appriximately)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    You can add these two, i renamed them "Turk", because I don´t know if they could be considered Turkic or Anatolian purely.I guess KAZ sample is more Turkic and Ottoman mostly Turkic and some Anatolian.

    Code:
    Turk:TUR_Ottoman,0.079107,-0.0741335,0.01829,-0.0075905,-0.043085,-0.0133865,0.0029375,0.000808,-0.010124,-0.012119,-0.00885,-0.0063695,-0.0057235,-0.0088075,0.0052255,0,0.007758,0.000887,-0.0018855,-0.000375,-0.0089845,-0.0004325,-0.0096135,-0.001747,0.0003595
    Turk:KAZ_Turk,0.0774,-0.0873355,0.0254555,0.0150195,-0.025543,0.00251,0.0048175,0.0077305,-0.0172825,-0.009385,-0.019568,-0.0029225,-0.0030475,-0.010735,0.0007465,0.0057675,-0.00013,0.001457,0.003331,0.000438,-0.005116,0.0059355,-0.005608,-0.0006025,0.002874
    Thanks for the samples.

    Target: Hapanuwa_scaled
    Distance: 4.3294% / 0.04329381
    67.2 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    32.8 Turk:TUR_Ottoman

    Target: Hapanuwa_scaled
    Distance: 4.8088% / 0.04808797
    62.4 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    30.4 Turk:KAZ_Turk
    7.2 Balkan:BGR_IA

    Pretty much the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hapanuwa View Post
    Thanks for the samples.

    Pretty much the same
    And if you remove Italian sample and add these ones?(with "Turk" references and initially proposed ones)

    Code:
    South_Caucasus:Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
    Levantine:Levant_Beirut_IAIII,0.0879282,0.1524565,-0.0486488,-0.0910456,-0.0101942,-0.0317236,-0.0037306,-0.0098649,0.010124,0.0135538,0.0061304,-0.0041964,0.0116699,0.0030104,-0.0105864,0.0012099,1.64e-05,0.0007285,0.0025766,-0.0008755,0.0024332,0.0045751,-0.0034355,-0.0011446,-0.0020656
    South_Caucasus:AZE_Caucasus_lowlands_LN,0.097319,0.1457285,-0.068636,-0.0702525,-0.0333905,-0.021893,0.0094005,-0.0141915,-0.0224975,0.0027335,0.001705,0.0050205,-0.014197,0.0016515,-0.0084145,-0.0110045,0.008866,0.0022805,0.004085,-0.0011255,0.0061145,0.004946,-0.0049915,-0.006326,0.001916

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    Distance: 2.1066% / 0.02106646
    74.2 Balkan
    14.2 Baltic
    10.8 Italian
    0.8 Slav

    Distance to: Valentina_scaled
    0.03739337 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    0.04394667 Balkan:BGR_IA
    0.04440964 Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.06103645 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    0.08106710 French:FRA_IA_central
    0.09328877 Iberian:Iberia_North_IA
    0.09439103 French:FRA_IA_north
    0.10334120 Sardinian:ITA_Sardinia_EMA
    0.10497562 Slav:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.10987386 British_Islands:England_Roman
    0.11022650 British_Islands:England_IA
    0.12096341 Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad
    0.12203886 German:SWE_IA
    0.12797632 German:SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    0.19695173 Baltic:Baltic_EST_BA

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    Target: scaled
    Distance: 2.6233% / 0.02623333
    81.8 Italian
    15.0 Baltic
    3.2 Balkan
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    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 2.5085% / 0.02508491
    42.2 Italian
    32.8 Balkan
    19.6 Baltic
    5.4 Slav

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    Target: Xabier_scaled
    Distance: 2.3122% / 0.02312184
    64.4 Iberian
    28.6 British_Islands
    5.4 Sardinian
    1.6 Italian

    Distance to: Xabier_scaled
    0.03046468 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    0.03865820 French:FRA_IA_central
    0.05050748 Iberian:Iberia_North_IA
    0.05177858 French:FRA_IA_north
    0.05552199 Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.06456628 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    0.06599259 British_Islands:England_IA
    0.06628058 British_Islands:England_Roman
    0.08793755 Balkan:BGR_IA
    0.08824908 German:SWE_IA
    0.08890727 Slav:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.09289785 German:SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    0.10201570 Sardinian:ITA_Sardinia_EMA
    0.10505390 Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad
    0.18115818 Baltic:Baltic_EST_BA

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    Quote Originally Posted by paradox View Post
    Target: scaled
    Distance: 2.6233% / 0.02623333
    81.8 Italian
    15.0 Baltic
    3.2 Balkan
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    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 2.5085% / 0.02508491
    42.2 Italian
    32.8 Balkan
    19.6 Baltic
    5.4 Slav
    It seems that Italian references gave problems with some people with Greek ancestry as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paradox View Post
    Target: scaled
    Distance: 2.6233% / 0.02623333
    81.8 Italian
    15.0 Baltic
    3.2 Balkan
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    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 2.5085% / 0.02508491
    42.2 Italian
    32.8 Balkan
    19.6 Baltic
    5.4 Slav
    It seems that Italian references gave problems with some people with Greek ancestry as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    And if you remove Italian sample and add these ones?(with "Turk" references and initially proposed ones)

    Code:
    South_Caucasus:Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
    Levantine:Levant_Beirut_IAIII,0.0879282,0.1524565,-0.0486488,-0.0910456,-0.0101942,-0.0317236,-0.0037306,-0.0098649,0.010124,0.0135538,0.0061304,-0.0041964,0.0116699,0.0030104,-0.0105864,0.0012099,1.64e-05,0.0007285,0.0025766,-0.0008755,0.0024332,0.0045751,-0.0034355,-0.0011446,-0.0020656
    South_Caucasus:AZE_Caucasus_lowlands_LN,0.097319,0.1457285,-0.068636,-0.0702525,-0.0333905,-0.021893,0.0094005,-0.0141915,-0.0224975,0.0027335,0.001705,0.0050205,-0.014197,0.0016515,-0.0084145,-0.0110045,0.008866,0.0022805,0.004085,-0.0011255,0.0061145,0.004946,-0.0049915,-0.006326,0.001916
    Target: Hapanuwa_scaled
    Distance: 2.1720% / 0.02171971
    28.4 Turk
    26.4 Levantine
    21.0 South_Caucasus
    17.4 Balkan
    3.0 Slav
    2.8 German
    1.0 Sardinian

    Adding a Greek Islander sample would be a good fit I think

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