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    Target: Kevin_scaled
    Distance: 2.2187% / 0.02218738
    99.2 British_Islands
    0.8 French

    Distance to: Kevin_scaled
    0.02218995 British_Islands:England_IA
    0.03104966 British_Islands:England_Roman
    0.04496738 German:SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna

    0.04549068 French:FRA_IA_north
    0.05079963 German:SWE_IA
    0.05245135 French:FRA_IA_central
    0.06529879 Slav:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.07471702 Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad
    0.07610380 Iberian:Iberia_North_IA
    0.08695426 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    0.09954393 Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.11555280 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    0.13869447 Balkan:BGR_IA
    0.14085580 Baltic:Baltic_EST_BA
    0.15722302 Sardinian:ITA_Sardinia_EMA


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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    And if you try original sources but with 0.25X?

    Or simply removing Italian reference.
    Well with 0.25X it models me as 60% Slav + 40% Italian But this is interesting because it happens on GEDmatch that I get modeled as 50% Russian + 50% Italian_Tuscany or something like this haha

    Without Italian the distance is bigger but overall more accurate I think:

    Target: Chris_scaled
    Distance: 2.6568% / 0.02656752
    51.0 Slav
    39.0 Balkan
    8.2 Baltic
    1.8 Iberian

    Target: ChrisFather
    Distance: 5.1005% / 0.05100490
    57.4 Balkan
    29.8 Slav
    12.8 Baltic

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    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 7.0134% / 0.07013413
    49.2 Iberian
    33.0 Italian
    17.8 German

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 7.0195% / 0.07019529 | ADC: 0.25x

    56.8 Iberian
    28.4 Italian
    14.8 German

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 7.0987% / 0.07098671 | ADC: 0.5x

    77.0 Iberian
    16.4 Italian
    6.6 German

    Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    0.07261665 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    0.08232138 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    0.08586367 French:FRA_IA_central
    0.08881319 Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.09125324 French:FRA_IA_north
    0.09179480 Iberian:Iberia_North_IA
    0.10507810 British_Islands:England_Roman
    0.10812642 British_Islands:England_IA
    0.11033397 Balkan:BGR_IA
    0.11399200 German:SWE_IA
    0.11783300 Slav:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.12350254 German:SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    0.13069546 Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad
    0.13116434 Sardinian:ITA_Sardinia_EMA
    0.20035402 Baltic:Baltic_EST_BA
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    Shouldn't the "German" samples be Scandinavian?

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.0125% / 0.02012522
    85.8 British_Islands
    14.2 German

    Distance to: Grace_scaled
    0.02107911 British_Islands:England_Roman
    0.02552519 British_Islands:England_IA
    0.03779415 German:SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    0.04045569 German:SWE_IA
    0.05051247 French:FRA_IA_north
    0.05151406 French:FRA_IA_central
    0.06219364 Slav:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.06995265 Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad
    0.07527044 Iberian:Iberia_North_IA
    0.09153014 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    0.10141706 Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.12132529 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    0.13363455 Baltic:Baltic_EST_BA
    0.14520140 Balkan:BGR_IA
    0.16608610 Sardinian:ITA_Sardinia_EMA

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    From what I've seen it seems to have modeled people well. Good choice of samples.

    Target: Ryo_scaled
    Distance: 2.7907% / 0.02790731
    47.6 German
    29.0 British_Islands
    14.4 Iberian
    9.0 Balkan

    Target: Ryo_scaled
    Distance: 2.7989% / 0.02798895 | ADC: 0.25x
    43.6 German
    36.0 British_Islands
    12.4 Iberian
    8.0 Balkan
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Shouldn't the "German" samples be Scandinavian?

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.0125% / 0.02012522
    85.8 British_Islands
    14.2 German

    Distance to: Grace_scaled
    0.02107911 British_Islands:England_Roman
    0.02552519 British_Islands:England_IA
    0.03779415 German:SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    0.04045569 German:SWE_IA
    0.05051247 French:FRA_IA_north
    0.05151406 French:FRA_IA_central
    0.06219364 Slav:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.06995265 Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad
    0.07527044 Iberian:Iberia_North_IA
    0.09153014 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    0.10141706 Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.12132529 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    0.13363455 Baltic:Baltic_EST_BA
    0.14520140 Balkan:BGR_IA
    0.16608610 Sardinian:ITA_Sardinia_EMA
    What is your breakdown of Iron Age/Roman era British in admixture?

    Target: Ryo_scaled
    Distance: 2.7907% / 0.02790731
    47.6 German:SWE_IA
    29.0 British_Islands:England_Roman
    12.0 Iberian:Iberia_North_IA
    9.0 Balkan:HRV_IA
    2.4 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Scaled

    https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

    Code:
    Baltic:Baltic_EST_BA,0.1321485,0.1213556,0.0992205,0.111662,0.051671,0.040746,0.0158398,0.0204684,-0.0029042,-0.050607,0.0009094,-0.0182389,0.0359462,0.0400344,-0.0180239,0.0018297,0.0103654,-0.000684,-0.0013952,0.0046272,-0.0024957,-0.0062692,0.0106487,-0.017388,0.002359
    French:FRA_IA_central,0.1245845455,0.1446669091,0.0507399091,0.0257812727,0.0391961818,0.0043861818,-0.0005552727,0.0056640909,0.0114346364,0.0169977273,-0.0016384545,0.0041690909,-0.0156364545,-0.0094082727,0.010611,-0.0002893636,-0.0046819091,3.46363636363638E-005,0.0029367273,0.0039564545,-0.000726,0.0028777273,-0.003787,-0.0047213636,0.0016656364
    French:FRA_IA_north,0.1195145,0.140143,0.0486485,0.0382755,0.042931,0.015618,-0.0045825,0.005884,0.0114535,0.0166745,-0.004628,0.006744,-0.019995,-0.00984,0.0143185,0.0019225,-0.00515,0.0087415,0.0081705,-0.003064,0.0008735,0.003957,0.0109075,0.000181,0.005389
    Sardinian:ITA_Sardinia_EMA,0.1217905,0.164008,0.024324,-0.0492575,0.060165,-0.022451,-0.00094,-0.0015,0.0443815,0.075628,-0.0060895,0.012214,-0.026982,-0.0239465,-0.011197,0.0070275,0.02725,0.0052575,-0.002828,-0.007191,-0.000312,0.0019165,-0.0060395,-0.0181955,-0.0013175
    Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity,0.1130169,0.148775,0.0057355,-0.0298371,0.0238762,-0.012399,-0.0004504,-0.0026633,0.006792,0.0239033,0.0014005,0.0050268,-0.0083498,-0.003108,-0.0045523,-0.0004917,0.0042865,0.0005385,0.0032735,-0.0014902,-0.000993,0.0016075,-0.0009192,0.0002611,-0.0012474
    German:SWE_IA,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.058463,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.002844,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
    German:SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna,0.1271224,0.1253377,0.0747295,0.065161,0.0408658,0.0216214,0.0062957,0.010117,0.0020776,-0.0121906,-0.0015214,0.003652,-0.0001408,-0.0004635,0.0130149,0.0058408,-0.0046871,0.0030273,0.003685,0.0039164,0.0028765,0.0033256,0.0007914,0.0075659,-0.0002459
    British_Islands:England_Roman,0.127482,0.1368064,0.0595853,0.0494651,0.0371496,0.0170523,0.0036593,0.0052416,0.0030094,0.0031503,-0.0053821,0.007108,-0.0142077,-0.0127597,0.0219673,0.0017616,-0.0083819,0.0011221,0.0039503,0.0038054,0.0052586,0.0016606,-0.0035037,0.0071954,-0.0002394
    British_Islands:England_IA,0.1317503,0.1307495,0.0601505,0.0480462,0.0350832,0.0201498,0.0048175,0.0036922,0.0042438,0.0041915,-0.0044248,0.0057322,-0.0105175,-0.018476,0.0180167,0.0100438,0.001206,-6.33e-05,0.0033312,0.003908,0.0038995,0.000247,-0.0012018,0.0114172,0.0004493
    Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE,0.1141078,0.1454745,0.033941,-0.0063792,0.0375455,-0.001046,0.0001175,0.0031728,0.0259233,0.033076,-0.0032475,0.003859,-0.0118182,-0.0116978,0.0027482,-0.0012927,6.5e-05,-0.0040538,-0.00088,-0.0025325,0.004336,0.000371,-0.0001847,-0.0011747,-0.0003592
    Iberian:Iberia_North_IA,0.125205,0.1431895,0.065053,0.0114665,0.058011,0.003347,-0.0034075,0.0045,0.026077,0.034989,-0.002192,0.0088425,-0.0169475,-0.0085325,0.0107215,6.65e-05,-0.008279,0.0008865,-0.000126,-0.00075,0.0082355,0.0023495,-0.0070865,-0.0118085,-0.0061075
    Balkan:HRV_IA,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.01169,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
    Balkan:BGR_IA,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
    Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad,0.133742,0.12948,0.073727,0.057494,0.0373915,0.029144,0.0094,0.007269,0.004295,-0.018224,-0.001543,-0.006369,0.0102575,0.017753,-0.0138435,0.0007295,0.0002605,0.0034205,0.0055305,0.001313,0,-0.002782,0.010846,-0.0069285,0.001736
    Slav:CZE_Early_Slav,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0.046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
    Only recommend a slightly different name for the "Balkan" sample, like Proto-Balkan/Illyrian since this is pre-Slavic migration.
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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    Target:
    Distance: 2.5147% / 0.02514660
    51.6 Italian
    19.4 Balkan
    14.4 British_Islands
    5.6 French
    4.8 Slav
    4.2 Sardinian

    Distance to:
    0.03654277 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    0.04004007 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    0.04076733 Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.05813286 Balkan:BGR_IA
    0.06109777 French:FRA_IA_central
    0.07301065 Iberian:Iberia_North_IA
    0.07442242 French:FRA_IA_north
    0.09024505 British_Islands:England_Roman
    0.09087609 British_Islands:England_IA
    0.09703492 Sardinian:ITA_Sardinia_EMA
    0.10026956 Slav:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.10856446 German:SWE_IA
    0.11417742 German:SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    0.11587106 Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad
    0.19458768 Baltic:Baltic_EST_BA

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    Target: Oszkar
    Distance: 2.0699% / 0.02069928 | ADC: 0.25x
    37.0 German
    27.8 Slav
    19.8 French
    15.4 Balkan

    Target: Oszkar
    Distance: 2.0450% / 0.02044970
    39.0 German
    23.4 Balkan
    20.6 Slav
    7.0 French
    5.0 Baltic
    5.0 Iberian
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    Target: Hapanuwa_scaled
    Distance: 9.0060% / 0.09005966
    98.0 Italian
    2.0 Slav

    Distance to: Hapanuwa_scaled
    0.09009188 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    0.10956770 Balkan:BGR_IA
    0.11484493 Balkan:HRV_IA
    0.11743116 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    0.13403767 French:FRA_IA_central
    0.14166134 French:FRA_IA_north
    0.14626572 Slav:CZE_Early_Slav
    0.14758082 British_Islands:England_IA
    0.14955397 British_Islands:England_Roman
    0.15082852 Iberian:Iberia_North_IA
    0.15609353 German:SWE_IA
    0.16196062 Sardinian:ITA_Sardinia_EMA
    0.16373685 German:SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    0.16391841 Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad
    0.23073832 Baltic:Baltic_EST_BA

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