Down-turned and mesorrhine (medium-wide) noses in Europeans

[gakki]

My questions:

1) Which European phenotypes/ethnicities could have downturned noses except Dinarics and Armenids (if you count that as Euro)? What I mean is - are they the only phenotypes who have down-turned or hooked noses? I've seen anthropologists classify some people under other phenotypes and they had these type of noses.

2) Which European phenotypes are known for mesorrhine noses except Paleo-Sardinians (Berids)?

and my last question - is it fair to say that if someone has a down-turned, mesorrhine nose and is also brachycephalic and is an ethnic southern European (such as a family member of mine) he is a Dinaricized Paleo-Sardinian?

Thank you.

P.S. - I posted a thread about my grandparents where I asked where they could pass best a few days ago. If you want to reply to the thread this is the link: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ents-pass-best

[princeton90]

Armenoid doesn’t exist in Europe as native, it only exist in West Asia and Central Asia as native.

[dududud]

No, he's just a looking arab. Berid = arab face, and not typical sardinian face (what looks Europeans, old europeans but still europeans face and very distant ton sicilians).

[gakki]

No, he's just a looking arab. Berid = arab face, and not typical sardinian face (what looks Europeans, old europeans but still europeans face and very distant ton sicilians).

My great-grandma was a Paleo Sardinian/Berid and she doesn't look like an Arab. Berids and Paleo Sardinians are the same. Also the the 'Arab' phenotype has a hyperleptorrhine nose.

[gakki]

No, he's just a looking arab. Berid = arab face, and not typical sardinian face (what looks Europeans, old europeans but still europeans face and very distant ton sicilians).

Btw the Paleo Sardinian phenotype is present in Southern Calabria and East Sicly.

http://humanphenotypes.net/PaleoSardinian.html

"Berid" is the term Lundman gave to Paleo Sardinian.

Even if there was a difference between Berid and Paleo Sardinian, Berid wouldn't be closer to 'Arabs' (lol) but morphologically similar to Berberid.

[Ylla]

No idea about your other questions which sound a bit confusing, but I've read mesorrhine shape is found in CMs.

[gakki]

No idea about your other questions which sound a bit confusing, but I've read mesorrhine shape is found in CMs.

By the other question I meant if any other European phenotype can have down-turned noses besides Dinarics