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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    It depends on which part of France(genetically), in addition, I somehow had to balance the reference.

    Poland is Center Europe but genetically should be conisdered Northeast Europe.

    I try it before using Swiss average (Without Swiss Italian, maybe adding it would be a balanced reference too)as Central European reference, but didn´t work very well so I choose that one.

    Anyway, which averages would you have used to make a good central European reference?
    I think central European reference is pointless, because it's mix of all other regions.

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    Target: Impaler_scaled
    Distance: 4.0255% / 0.04025460
    73.4 SouthEast_Europe
    13.4 NorthEast_Europe
    13.2 NorthWest_Europe

    Distance to: Impaler_scaled
    0.05025179 SouthEast_Europe
    0.07127585 Central_Europe
    0.07679325 SouthWest_Europe
    0.09444868 NorthWest_Europe
    0.10308526 NorthEast_Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Many countries considered Central Europe has nothing to do among them, Poland is Central Europe and so is Swiss or Hungary, so I don't know to what extent averages between references so different from each other would result in a representative reference of anyone.

    Probably the best thing to do is to leave the model with 4 references without adding any Central European, because it destabilizes all the others.

    Or do a new model with France as "West_Central_Europe, Italy as South_Central... etc, but that model will originate new problems with overlapping.

    And people complaining that they are Italian and not Greek, or that they are English and that they get German or French.

    Or that the actual geographical center of Europe is in Latvia.
    Removed, I'll send you in private because I don't want to derail your thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I think central European reference is pointless, because it's mix of all other regions.
    Yeah, I knew that this reference would cause problems with other, but I had to try it.

    The first model was quite well, maybe I simply could have added a new reference for any "corner", and make a model with 2 references for every "corner" to try to lower distances.

    Any suggestion for these 4 new references will always be well received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I think central European reference is pointless, because it's mix of all other regions.
    I think it does its job for British Isles people, showing continental shiftedness. It can be a transitional average for the other averages.
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaler View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I think central European reference is pointless, because it's mix of all other regions.
    As natives and "implicated" any suggestion for a new NorthEastern and SouthEastern Europe references?

    Quote Originally Posted by RyoHazuki View Post
    I think it does its job for British Isles people, showing continental shiftedness. It can be a transitional average for the other averages.
    Any suggestion as British for a new Northwestern Europe reference?

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    This only makes sense if Rusyn/Lemko dna is Central European... otherwise I don't get the results. Maybe because of Anglo Saxon & Franks being central europe?


    0.04073794 NorthWest_Europe
    0.04459197 Central_Europe
    0.07906733 SouthWest_Europe
    0.08128264 NorthEast_Europe
    0.10941892 SouthEast_Europe

    Target: Cole_scaled
    Distance: 3.7558% / 0.03755757
    60.4 NorthWest_Europe
    39.6 Central_Europe
    AVG Ancestry: 85% NW Europe, 15% Eastern Europe
    Predominant land of modern ancestry: British Isles
    Ancestors: Alemanni, Viking (Sweden, Iceland), Corded Ware Denmark, Bronze Age Jutland Denmark, Anglo Saxon, Ostrogoth Nordic, Nordic Lombard

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    Target: Kaspias_scaled
    Distance: 6.7259% / 0.06725929
    79.2 SouthEast_Europe
    20.8 NorthEast_Europe
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    As natives and "implicated" any suggestion for a new NorthEastern and SouthEastern Europe references?



    Any suggestion as British for a new Northwestern Europe reference?
    You previously made separate English and British Islands (Irish, Scottish, etc) averages so a combination of them might be interesting, if you haven't yet.
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyoHazuki View Post
    You previously made separate English and British Islands (Irish, Scottish, etc) averages so a combination of them might be interesting, if you haven't yet.
    Yes i have them,I can add 4 references for NW Europe(Icelandic+Shetlandic+Orcadian), (English+EnglishCornwall) , (Irish+Scotland+Welsh) and (Norway+Sweden-maybe adding Danish too?) in the next model.

    Where put Finland and Baltics??

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