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    Default What exactly makes someone an incel?

    I'm not a hot prettyboy or stud by today's standards and beauty definitions.
    But I've had girlfriends and do currently have one. (That explains me not being as active on this website as before lool it's very time consuming haha)

    I haven a cousin of mine. Which is better looking than me and he's still a virgin and can't get a girlfriend.

    Do you think those incel men/guys have something other than looks what holds them back from getting laid. I mean assuming they don't have severe facial deformities or anything like that.
    Like the soyboy basement dweller momma's fatass male perhaps? Do they lack the very essence of what it defines to be a man?
    Are they too socially awkward?(my cousin has level 1 autism)

    Do you believe it's the work of some higher power. Perhaps supernatural that controls one's dateableness?

    I'm confused
    I haven't seen anyone as ugly as incels claim them to be (again unless they're deformed or disabled)

    What puzzles me is that there's even blind people who arw happily married. I know 3 guys personally

    Anyways can someone educate further on this incel phenomenon. What exactly causes it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illyrius View Post
    Do you think those incel men/guys have something other than looks what holds them back from getting laid. I mean assuming they don't have severe facial deformities or anything like that. Like the soyboy basement dweller momma's fatass male perhaps? Do they lack the very essence of what it defines to be a man? Are they too socially awkward?
    It's basically the new way for women to call men "pathetic virgins" like they always have but now it's dressed up in a shallow layer of politics so they can feel self-righteous about it.

    They can pretend they're talking about a serious issue or threat against women but really it's just a way to passive-aggressively mock people they disagree with by implying they're losers who can't get laid.

    Incels on the other hand have high standards for woman due to years of pornography and are thus disinterested in unattractive women. Even average women provide no sexual stimulus for a porn addict. They will have unrealistic standards for women and sex as long as they are watching porn.

    There are even decent looking women who aren't hot enough to be showered with attention that if you give time and attention to will in return fuck you because women crave attention more than anything. I see it all the time, fat guys, ugly guys, average guys who are getting girls way above them in terms of looks and they're not rich, they just go for an average looking girl and show her the attention she desperately wants but doesn't get because she isn't 7/10 or up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Illyrius View Post
    Do you believe it's the work of some higher power. Perhaps supernatural that controls one's dateableness?
    In the past incels were the less desirable men. There's things fucked up and wrong with them. They're ugly, they're short, they're unhygienic, they're fat, they're stupid, or they're unambitious. Something that makes them overall a loser. The way society WAS set up, these losers would find similarly fat, unattractive, stupid, or otherwise fucked up women, marry them, and produce the next generation of disgusting incel children. Sometimes you'd get an Emma Watson situation where both parents are butt ugly and they produce good looking offspring, but otherwise that's how it went.

    In today's society however, this structure has been broken down by hypergamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Illyrius View Post
    Anyways can someone educate further on this incel phenomenon. What exactly causes it?
    Hans and Pohl predicted back in 1985 the creation of a future heterosexual male incel caste via declining birth rates in the West. As women seek out older males (in typical marriages there is on average a 3-4 year age difference) and every year the supply of legal age girls declines, the percentage of incel men in coming generational cohorts increases.

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    Physically?

    - 20-25 and under 5'6
    - Nonwhite particularly Asian
    - Balding
    - Facially ugly, talking below 3/10
    - Fat

    Personality wise?

    - Being genuinely autistic or just socially retarded
    - Having a shitty and negative outlook on life
    - Being too shy to make a move

    That's only in terms of the west. The physical stuff can maybe be overcome by having an attractive personality but if you have everything on both lists you have no chance at all. Incel just means involuntary celibate or someone who wants to get laid but can't for whatever reason, it's been morphed into some buzzword by weirdos on the internet. There are a load of men who are more than attractive enough to get laid but are just too socially awkward and shy, the latter is something that can be changed though

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Abominacion View Post
    Physically?

    - 20-25 and under 5'6
    - Nonwhite particularly Asian
    - Balding
    - Facially ugly, talking below 3/10
    - Fat

    Personality wise?

    - Being genuinely autistic or just socially retarded
    - Having a shitty and negative outlook on life
    - Being too shy to make a move

    That's only in terms of the west. The physical stuff can maybe be overcome by having an attractive personality but if you have everything on both lists you have no chance at all. Incel just means involuntary celibate or someone who wants to get laid but can't for whatever reason, it's been morphed into some buzzword by weirdos on the internet. There are a load of men who are more than attractive enough to get laid but are just too socially awkward and shy, the latter is something that can be changed though
    I have said this before, getting laid is really really easy. I think a lot of guys have too high of standards, especially virgins. People want to fuck Cinderella or some shit; which unless you are going after church broads looking to get crazy it aint gonna happen. I think a lot of it comes from toxic jealousy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    It's basically the new way for women to call men "pathetic virgins" like they always have but now it's dressed up in a shallow layer of politics so they can feel self-righteous about it.

    They can pretend they're talking about a serious issue or threat against women but really it's just a way to passive-aggressively mock people they disagree with by implying they're losers who can't get laid.

    Incels on the other hand have high standards for woman due to years of pornography and are thus disinterested in unattractive women. Even average women provide no sexual stimulus for a porn addict. They will have unrealistic standards for women and sex as long as they are watching porn.

    There are even decent looking women who aren't hot enough to be showered with attention that if you give time and attention to will in return fuck you because women crave attention more than anything. I see it all the time, fat guys, ugly guys, average guys who are getting girls way above them in terms of looks and they're not rich, they just go for an average looking girl and show her the attention she desperately wants but doesn't get because she isn't 7/10 or up.



    In the past incels were the less desirable men. There's things fucked up and wrong with them. They're ugly, they're short, they're unhygienic, they're fat, they're stupid, or they're unambitious. Something that makes them overall a loser. The way society WAS set up, these losers would find similarly fat, unattractive, stupid, or otherwise fucked up women, marry them, and produce the next generation of disgusting incel children. Sometimes you'd get an Emma Watson situation where both parents are butt ugly and they produce good looking offspring, but otherwise that's how it went.

    In today's society however, this structure has been broken down by hypergamy.



    Hans and Pohl predicted back in 1985 the creation of a future heterosexual male incel caste via declining birth rates in the West. As women seek out older males (in typical marriages there is on average a 3-4 year age difference) and every year the supply of legal age girls declines, the percentage of incel men in coming generational cohorts increases.

    I agree the term is thrown around a lot and that to me it means undesirable men for whatever reason who actually hate women, the kind that turn out to be stalkers and rapists etc.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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    The word, Incel, comes from a combination of two word; involuntary celibate. Voluntary celibacy is not an incel at all, and there are people in the world that do that due to their religious beliefs and/or culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post

    Hans and Pohl predicted back in 1985 the creation of a future heterosexual male incel caste via declining birth rates in the West. As women seek out older males (in typical marriages there is on average a 3-4 year age difference) and every year the supply of legal age girls declines, the percentage of incel men in coming generational cohorts increases.

    This plus add that we're now living in hyper safe societies, in which men are dying at a much slower scale than before, combine it with the fact that there is a general rate of 1.04 of male babies vs female being born (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sex_ratio) and you will have a surplus of males.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamal900 View Post
    The word, Incel, comes from a combination of two word; involuntary celibate. Voluntary celibacy is not an incel at all, and there are people in the world that do that due to their religious beliefs and/or culture.
    yea I have known some very Chard Mormon dudes who were virgins before marriage. I don't think every virgin is an incel. Incels are usually very toxic people or mentally ill
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    yea I have known some very Chard Mormon dudes who were virgins before marriage. I don't think every virgin is an incel. Incels are usually very toxic people or mentally ill
    ya people underestimate Mormons a lot.

    i grew up around them, played against their HS in football and wrestling.

    they aint bitch forged, for sure.

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