Which of the following do you envisage becoming independent within the next thirty years?

[Tooting Carmen]

None.

Scotland can't afford independence (many young Scots are pop culture addled liberal morons who will go along with any movement as long as its optics are subversive 'sticking up for the underdog against the man' just like BLM negroes), Ireland can't afford Northern Ireland and Wales can't afford independence (#indywales is honestly the most faggoty name I've ever seen for an independence campaign lel).

OK, but what about all the other options I listed outside the British Isles?

[Dard]

Somaliland, the movie Black Panther was an Illuminati foreshadowing of an independent wakanda.

[Rocinante]

I'm honestly undecided. While it is true that Wales is economically and culturally intertwined to an extraordinary degree with England, this is at least as much a curse as it is a blessing. An independent Wales would be able to focus on itself more, potentially attract investment through a new tax and business regime much like Ireland has done, and move away from the overly London/City centric economy the UK has become.

Ireland has done very well actually, their GDP Per Capita is almost the same as Norway, and we all know what this means.

[XenophobicPrussian]

If I were a betting man, I'd bet on Transnistria, Artsakh(technically won't be a new country, will join Armenia most likely), Kurdistan(but only in Iraq, not Turkey, Turks too sociopath even in 2050 to support free will), Palestine.

Reasons are = Iraq is barely a state anymore, doesn't have much power | Transnistria/Artsakh backed by Russia, only places really backed up by a major power(I'd also include South Ossetia but while they're backed by Russia, I think they only support the current situation or annexation, an independent North Caucasus state would set a precedent for others) | The world is getting more and more pro-Palestine, not less, neo-cons will eventually have to fold, West Bank is also getting more developed/educated so maybe less support for stuff like Hamas in the future.

Doubt anything will happen in W. Europe, most likely are Scotland or Catalonia, but the time of Europeans worrying about imaginary lines in the ground is all about done(unfortunately, fences make good neighbours). Flanders and most of the others, no way they're happening.

Least likely are the nations within modern China/Pakistan. Also, free Tannu Tuva!

[Tooting Carmen]

Don't forget to vote people.

[ShieldWolf]

Probably none.

^ This.

[sean]

OK, but what about all the other options I listed outside the British Isles? Flanders, Brittany, Occitania, Corsica, Trento-Alto Adige, Veneto, Sardinia, Sicily, Catalonia, Basque Country, Galicia, Transnistria

I will just answer the European part as I don't care about third-world shitholes.

Flanders won't happen because in the last elections, roughly half of the Flemish vote (47% if I remember correctly) went to two Flemish nationalist parties. But most of the people voting for these parties just want more autonomy, not necessarily full independence. They just want more government competences to be transferred from the national government/parliament to the regional governments/parliaments. Most people in Belgium don't even feel like Flanders and Wallonia is in the same country. Everything, to the smallest behaviour is very different (that's what you get when you put a Germanic culture and a Frankish culture together in one country).

Brittany is a lost cause because for the most part Breton autonomy and nationalism was always (still is) backed by the left for which Brittany is a stronghold, mostly because Breton regionalism was a counterweight to the heavily Catholic, royalist, anti-revolutionary background of most of Brittany. The Breton language was only ever spoken in the western half, the rest (including the main cities of Rennes and Nantes) is as French as Champagne, Normandy or Picardy (heartland). Bretons have a tendency of alcoholism and radical leftist antifa militantism, they are known to export both ANTIFA and especially "gutter punks" all over France. However, Breton nationalists collaborated a lot with Nazi Germany during WW2, because they had a chance for independence as Hitler was quite respectful on such matters.

Occitan separatism is marginal. What is absolutely mainstream is the feeling of mistreatment that they get from France (starting from La vergonha). You can see it in the Yellow Vest protests. They are poorer than Parisians, feel left behind, and are constantly mocked by frogs (a leftist politician mocked a reporter in front of a crowd some time ago because of her accent).

Corsica wouldn't survive as an independent nation. It is still majority Corsican-speaking, but they also speak French. Corsican separatists are advocating for greater autonomy which they don't get, but it would stop at a specific regional status and they know why (FLNC went dormant years ago).

Padanian separatism is a dead ideology of the 90s, ever since Salvini took over Padanian independence has been largely forgotten. The history of the Northern League has been erased, and even its name has been changed, from Northern League (Lega Nord) to just "League" (Lega).

Veneto separatism is not possible because all their economy is based on small enterprises, and the economic power of Veneto is currently staggering, even compared to other northern regions which are very productive.

Sardinia will never become independent because the support for independence has failed to translate into electoral success for pro-independence parties. Even during Middle Ages they were always a colony of Genoa or Pisa.

Sicilian separatism died in late 1940's. The separatists actually petitioned US President Harry Truman and begged his help in turning Sicily into America’s 49th state. Salvatore Giuliano, in a letter to Truman, wrote that Sicily would become a buffer zone and prevent the Soviets from extending their influence in the Mediterranean. Unfortunately for the separatists, infighting within their ranks and Italy’s political concessions to Sicily ultimately killed their dream.

Catalonia would never happen because 'letting them be independent' without Spain's approval would have meant a veto for their entrance in the EU (as Catalonia wants to leave Spain but remain in the EU), which went against EU interests.

Basque separatism is a dead horse because young Basques don't want to associate themselves with ETA anymore. They just want to live in peace and more and more simply started to see themselves as being Basque and Spanish/French. ETA did more harm than good to the cause of Basque independence and now lost the support of its own people it fought for as well.

Galicia has no future because Bloque Nacionalista Galego (their largest separatist group) remains something of a fringe bloc (their electoral performance has typically been very modest), with this in mind, it seems that the dream of Galician independence is unlikely to become a reality within the next few years.

Transnistria has never been recognised by a single member state of the United Nations, and is thus officially still considered part of Moldova. Ironically, it was the only thing that kept Moldova from not uniting with Romania back in the 90s. The whole point of this place is to act like a parking lot for the Russian military. It provides protection from afar of their warm-water port now in Crimea, and secures their power in the region while acting as a check against NATO. It's basically a southern Koenigsberg, in fact you can assert that all of Moldova is Russia's parking lot. And there are no friendly routes from Russia to Transnistria, it's totally isolated by land and air.

[JamesBond007]

Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Flanders, Brittany, Occitania, Corsica, Trento-Alto Adige, Veneto, Sardinia, Sicily, Catalonia, Basque Country, Galicia, Transnistria, Chechnya, Dagestan, Palestine, Kurdistan, Balochistan, Kashmir, Tibet, Xinjiang, Mindanao, West Papua, Somaliland.

I see the opposite I see a trend towards worldwide digital dictatorship by IT corporations and the turning of the populace into docile slaves via genetic modification. I'm not so sure about the latter but I'm sure about the former.

[PaleoEuropean]

None of those really have a shot.

[PaleoEuropean]

I see the opposite I see a trend towards worldwide digital dictatorship by IT corporations and the turning of the populace into docile slaves via genetic modification. I'm not so sure about the latter but I'm sure about the former.

Disney filmed Mulan at the concentration camps so they can learn how to push it forward.