My last update on archeological R1a-M458.

[GalenStark]

It is only partialy legit. Becasue if culture was burning, then it burned all hgs, not only one.
So, the appearance among not burned persons counts, and should be propotionaly similar to
the real percent. Only when you compare it with other samples from inhuminating cultures you
have a problem, but why on earth we should do this? Every culture should be examined separetly,
and then it will be known, what amount of M458 really was there, regardless the form of burying.

Of course haplogroups can do both inhumation and cremation. My point is, M458 shows up in late Hallstatt which coincides precisely with the arrival of cremation rites and Iron weapons.

M458 could have introduced cremation to Hallstatt. If one haplogroup more commonly practiced cremation, they could appear less common on the archeological record than they may have been given the domination of cremation over inhumation. M458 aDNA increases with the Christian era and is hard to find before this. Probably because cremation was dropped.

[Rethel]

M458 aDNA increases with the Christian era and is hard to find before this.

Yes, but there are people who were not creamated in such cultures.
From such people will be dna. And dna taken from such people will be
rather representative for the culture, as people were not burned or not
burned becasue they have such and such hg. So, in my opinion, the
argument about cremation is invalid.

[GalenStark]

Yes, but there are people who were not creamated in such cultures.
From such people will be dna. And dna taken from such people will be
rather epresentative for the culture, as people were not burned or not
burned becasue they have such and such hg. So, in my opinion, the
argument about cremation is invalid.

I get where you're coming from. Of course we will find inhumations. I'm not saying they only practiced cremation. Only that the practice could be linked to M458 in the case of the singen sample who is dated to the period when cremation entered Hallstat(C & D)

[Arūnas]

ok