Armenia or Azerbaijan. Who would you support?

[Westbrook]

Me either. I guess whoever can hold the land by force deserves it. That is the way of our species...

I don't have any interest in taking any side, neutral

[Wehrmacht]

*NONE. I do not give a damn about both of them.*

Why is the world's media making a noisy fuss on social media about such a small, irrelevant and backward piece of land named Karabag?

[sean]

Neither.

We should not concern ourselves with non-white wars. People who care about this forever wars in Middle East and the rest of West Asia are no different than the Jew who wants the United States to get involved to defend his country.

[wvwvw]

Neither.

We should not concern ourselves with non-white wars. People who care about this forever wars in Middle East and the rest of West Asia are no different than the Jew who wants the United States to get involved to defend his country.

Too late. Nato's darling Turkey is involved and if it is not stopped the war might spiral out of control and many more countries may get involved:

Turkey’s game is lethal, as Johnson well knows
The PM’s forebear was lynched for condemning the Armenian genocide
Dominic Lawson
Sunday October 11 2020, 12.01am BST, The Sunday Times

Try to imagine, if you can, Germany intervening militarily in a dispute between Israel and the Palestinians by sending mercenaries to fight against the Jewish state, using its fighter planes to down Israeli ones, and drones to bomb civilian areas. It is impossible to imagine, because modern Germany is profoundly conscious of its historical record and the associated moral responsibility: Holocaust denial is a criminal offence, and Berlin has many memorials to the Jewish victims.

The exact opposite, in fact, of Turkey, where article 301 of the penal code makes it an offence to refer to the coldly planned and executed mass murder of its Armenian population in 1915 as “genocide” and where even great novelists such as Orhan Pamuk and Elif Shafak have faced prosecution for allowing their fictional characters to speak in such terms.

And so President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan sees only political gain in redirecting thousands of Turkey’s client jihadists from the Syrian civil war to fight alongside Azerbaijan’s army against Armenian forces in the disputed enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh, operating drones targeting the population in its capital, and using its fighter planes in Armenian airspace, with lethal results.

This territory, which has always had a predominantly Armenian population, was allocated to what was then the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic by Stalin. With the dissolution of the Soviet Union, its people voted for independence. This led to a war in which thousands were killed and many more displaced, but a Russian-brokered peace subsequently held — until two weeks ago, when Azerbaijan reopened hostilities. What is entirely new is the direct involvement of an outside power — Turkey — in what had previously been a purely local conflict...

Read the rest: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/c...nows-5zz5v57kx

[wvwvw]

NATO isn't about repelling a third world invasion only a Russian invasion. Literally no one gives a fuck about Karabakh but Armenians and Turks. At worst, NATO will throw Turkey into it and Russia will throw Iran in. It's another proxy conflict and business venture for military corporations and contractors.

This will not spill over into Europe like the Kosovo conflict in the Balkans.

Caucasus is not considered third world.

Nato will throw Turkey in? Are you for real? Turkey is increasingly seen a trouble-maker and a terrorist state by Nato.

Article after article point out that Turkey not an ally but a threat to world peace.

It's Time for Trump to Soberly Confront the Rising Turkish Threat
https://www.newsweek.com/its-time-tr...pinion-1536864

[sean]

Caucasus is not considered third world.

Yea right. Even TA ruskies don't think so lel.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6373015

Nato will throw Turkey in? Are you for real? Turkey is increasingly seen a trouble-maker and a terrorist state by Nato. Article after article point out that Turkey not an ally but a threat to world peace.

It's clear NATO doesn't actually want Turkey in their alliance, but the problem is the rules were drafted in such a way that another member state cannot be kicked out. There is either going to have to be some crafty legalwork to boot them, or they're just going to completely ignore their struggle by blaming Turkey as the aggressor even if Greece or Russia starts shit, and therefore no need to be called to war (as it was not defensive in nature).

The ONLY reason Turkey is in NATO is because of the location of the land for bases.

Even in Syria, when Turkey asked NATO to join its war, although NATO have the means to completely destroy Syria's military infrastructure within a week, if I remember correctly a 2014 study showed Syria would likely capitulate within 6-10 days of bombardment aka shock and awe.

The only thing holding NATO back is not so much an unpredictable Russia because Russia is very predictable, the main fear is that post-Assad Syria as a state will completely collapse and Europe will be deluged with millions more arab refugees. A ground invasion like Iraq 2003 could prevent this but this would be extremely costly. Same thing for Turkey. They collapse and you get flooded.

[Dard]

NATO isn't about repelling a third world invasion only a Russian invasion. Literally no one gives a fuck about Karabakh but Armenians and Turks. At worst, NATO will throw Turkey into it and Russia will throw Iran in. It's another proxy conflict and business venture for military corporations and contractors.

This will not spill over into Europe like the Kosovo conflict in the Balkans.

That's true, NATO's main purpose is to prevent Russian presence from spreading to the West.

[oszkar07]

In the end I would hope for Peace, being a keyboard warrior is easy but there isnt anything nice about war in real life.
Glory is only deserved by people who do the fighting not from spectators who do no more than yell from some safe sideline.

Concerning the OP in this situation Armenians of Artsakh were attacked.
Was the attack encouraged by Turkey.
Is this all connected to Turkey flexing up in the region ever since US forces left thr MiddleEast.


Given all these contexts I support Armenians rights to defend themselves and their homes.

Nor do I support the agendas of the aggressor states seemingly just war for increasing territory at the cost of many lives.

[Arsen_]

I'd like to ask these users (Adamm, akva, Ascended, Cristiano viejo, Hahns, Pleksi, Wehrmacht, Westbrook, Ulev) who vote that they do not give a damn, so you do not give a damn that one side declare its goal as the total extermination of other people and other side just want to defend own population?

[Armenian Bishop]

Fuck your law bitch and fuck U Azeri dogs. Our land. Power hungry grub.

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I Agree: It looks brutally honest, but you're basically right.