The Anglo Vice: Why Male Homosexuality is so Prevalent in Anglo-Saxon Countries

[Ouistreham]

There are a string of factors whe can all agree upon:

• Homosexuality is largely a matter of genetic inheritance and of statistical probabilities.

• "Gay genes" are transmitted as well by men as by women (otherwise prevalence of homosexual tendencies would tend to decrease over time and ultimately disappear), but gays are more likely than straight people to transmit the genes.

• In other words, the more gays are encouraged under social pressure to contract marriage with women and beget children, the higher the probability to find higher rates of homosexuality in the next generation.

• The more a culture is in denial about homosexuality (the USA and Arab countries are the best known examples), the more fagotts there are.

• When male sodomy is officially frowned upon and suppressed for several generations, there is going to be, from the moment social norms begin to relax, an explosion of public homosexual behaviours.

The most famous instance in Berlin the 20's, after Prussian morals and values collapsed at the end of WW-one. The German capital became instantly world famous as a gay haven. There was an esteemated 20,000 to 30,000 male prostitutes in Berlin in those years!

A similar phenomenon took place in Britain in the 30's through the 50's, especially in the elite public schools. Eton and Harrow were said to host over 50's of sodomites. It also happened, on a minor scale, in Spain and Italy in the 70's-80's with Catholics morals entering terminal crisis.

The British society has certainly evolved a lot since then and now their rate of homosexuality must be in the European low average. But the repute has remained. Here on the Continent, young boys who prepare to linguistic holidays in the UK are still advised to beware of Englishmen.

[Beorn]

• The more a culture is in denial about homosexuality (the USA and Arab countries are the best known examples), the more fagotts there are.

Really? I thought it was less. The more relaxed the society the more openly homosexual people exists.

[Joe McCarthy]

— Don't you understand this is just the reason why homosexuality is so widespread in the U.S. of A. and in the Muslim world?

There is sexual segregation to varying degrees of intensity in the Islamic world that creates a prison atmosphere. That probably encourages homosexuality, and also indicates that homosexuality has a cultural-environmental component, but how is this comparable to the US now or historically? Maybe you think the Jazz Age was the time of the American Taliban? Pffft. It'd be more accurate to call France a Muslim country, for rather obvious reasons.

Joe, you often display such a bewildering mix of inhererent retardness and bad faith that sometimes suspicions sneak into my mind that you might be an Arab or a Jew.

I'd say the chances of me being a Jew are slightly less than you being an Arab from the Maghreb, for both geographical and intellectual reasons...

[The Lawspeaker]

That quote from the French politician is rich. The French were the first to decriminalize homosexuality, and then proceeded to spread it around Europe, including even the Dutch. Conversely, England hanged homosexuals at the time, and similar existed in the US.

In the Netherlands homosexuality was legalized by the French in 1811 (before the French occupation there was the death penalty) although homosexuals were still prosecuted for "endangering the peace" as until the Zedelijkheidswet of 1911 legalized it and added an age of consent on it (21 years old unless both engaging in it were younger then 21 but older then 16 and it was done deliberately to protect adolescents against homosexuals--- Artikel 248-bis of the Dutch Code of Law).

Around 5000 homosexuals found themselves prosecuted between 1911 and 1971.

After left-wing pressure Artikel 248bis was repealed in 1971 -- now there is no more legal distinction between heterosexuality and homosexuality as the age of consent for both is now 16 and in 1998 civil partnerships were legalized - followed by same-sex "marriage" in 2001.

[Loddfafner]

The answer is simple. Anglo men are so hot that even other guys want us. Frenchmen are metrosexuals that can only get laid if they hit on the likes of Edith Cresson.

[Turkey]

I wonder how many years we'd have to go back before a statement like hers would strike an anglo-french war.

If we could determine the exact point, then we'd know what we've done wrong to deserve extinction, because however we socially changed after that point, to make us not defend our honour, is the reason we don't defend it now.

[The Lawspeaker]

Personally I am in favor of returning Artikel 248bis to the Code of Law coupled with adding a version of the British Section 28 and the end of same- sex marriage. One could always continue to recognize marriages that were performed and registered before such a new law goes into effect (and which are conforming to Artikel 248bis) or "demote" them to civil partnerships.

As one could continue to recognize civil partnerships.

So for short - a good policy might be too:

* return to a special age of consent (21) for homosexual liaisons unless both are under the age of 21 but older then 16. If a person older then 21 would have a homosexual llaison with a person younger then 21 this should be seen as statutory rape and punishable by a minimum of 4 years imprisonment.

* a law stating that local authorities shall not intentionally promote homosexuality or publish material with the intention of promoting homosexuality and will not promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship.

*Get rid of same-sex marriage but continue to recognize existing marriages or demote them to civil partnerships. Civil partnerships should remain legal and couples will theoretically much of the same rights as a married couple (apart from not being allowed to adopt children and not being able to add the last name of the partner as is done in marriages. Also should legal documents never refer to the partner as "husband" or "wife" but as "partner".

[Turkey]

Edith Cresson as a Prime Minister hasn't left a great record but when hinting at the notoriously high prevalence of male homosexuality among Anglo societies she was just stating the obvious.

If the choice is being gay or having this as my football team.....


Show the way to the hairy arse any day!

[Joe McCarthy]

I wonder how many years we'd have to go back before a statement like hers would strike an anglo-french war.

If we could determine the exact point, then we'd know what we've done wrong to deserve extinction, because however we socially changed after that point, to make us not defend our honour, is the reason we don't defend it now.

I am very pro-British, pro-Anglosphere, and Anglo oriented generally, but it is annoying how the French insist on lumping us all together. America is not England. We weren't the country turned back at Orleans. In fact, as much Francophobia as there has been here post-Iraq I'm one who thinks it is impossible for an informed American to be anti-French. It is thanks to them that we are independent. The heroics of the Comte de Grasse, Rochambeau, and Lafayette should never be forgotten, and I'm tired of Frenchmen looking on us as if we exemplify the Black Prince.

[BeerBaron]

The french taking shots at anglos and americans, now thats rare